People are responsible for their actions. Yes, parents who abuse their children are, in fact, responsible for abusing their children. Yes, narcissistic and borderline people are, in actual fact, morally responsible for when they abuse other people.
I'm not sure where the disagreement is coming from.
Yes, I'm talking about what the religious call "sin." Correct. I really can't read your intent. On the surface, it looks like you're upset with what I wrote or think there's something terrible about it that you disagree with, but I can't figure out what that is.
I relate to this. I just finished skimming the FB posts of a few formerly dear liberal "friends" who I'm still -- nominally -- friends with, but only because they have not publicly threatened to kill someone. They don't want to hear anything I'm actually thinking. I tried to start conversations after Trump, but that was just very bad.
But this group of women (and some men) encompasses almost everyone I ever knew and was close to. Combine that with the fact that I'm a woman with masculine sensibilities on things related to order, and .... well ... my in-group is really small right now because I get so sick of bullshit so fast.
Janice Fiamengo’s claim that “ feminism was a hate movement since the beginning” inspired me to engage in a process of learning and deep inquiry. Carrie Gress and Mary Harrington were two other helpful voices in relieving me of my own damaging limitations acquired from living in the toxic cultural soup of its legacy. Like much of liberal idealism the feminist let’s say mind virus runs cover, justification and violent dramatization for victimhood/victimizer scapegoat cultists. Our still “nominally friends” are suffering to stay asleep. Perhaps we can offer them freedom… listen, ask questions, and stay free ourselves. Educating ourselves is a good start. We need to understand the cluster B, the Marxist mind virus etc. so we can call it out effectively
Same. I have an emotional/neurotic personality closer to female-typical in a lot of ways. But when it's someone else in melt down, like a friend, I can easily remain calm and help in a rational way. It's much harder to do for myself.
I think there is a solid intuition here Josh. And it probably generalises well to almost every axis of mutual demonisation in our culture. Maybe the real issue is the culture has started promoting the symptoms of Cluster B instead of sanctioning the people who exhibit them - who parade them in fact.
I think a big problem is Cluster B is driven by serious energy. They are crazy. It is their entire worldview that is at stake. So it requires a lot of energy from us to stop.
We see it with the trans stuff. We all know it is nonsense but go along for an easy life. This mostly works, but when a seriously unhinged trans person appears we often lack the mechanisms to deal with them.
Indeed. But nonetheless, while we go to work and get on with life a layer of society is scheming and plotting to destroy it all. Throw in generous funding from distant billionaires and we even have the ringleaders destructing our world and making a living from it.
That is why the only solution is complete intolerance of their bullshit. Throw them out of meetings, exile them from polite society. Call them out on their bullshit.
When I was shopping, there was a guy who was the cashier who was a tranny
It made me sick. The people who just went up to him and acted like he was normal.
I went to another cashier if someone said, why did you go to that other cashier I would say mind your business
Any of you cowards who didn’t go to another cashier is fucking evil because they are the ones who allowed all this shit to continue because they wouldn’t just go to another cashier or not go to the library at pride month. Call the library and tell them hey you know I’m not going on pride month
I was making a general observation. Many go along with it for a peaceful life and it doesn't intrude too much. Also people can face serious repercussions depending on the environment.
Yes, but I was extremely disappointed in humanity that people couldn’t even lift a finger
They are ripping little boys dicks off as we speak, and there is a guy from Texas, who could not get the courts to not rip his kids dick off
Do you see how bad it is?!
What if you were that father? !
And what I’m saying is people couldn’t even lift a finger by not going to the tranny stuff , they didn’t have to participate, they could call the library and say in their opinion, they shouldn’t have pride. That’s not gonna let anybody know who it is even if your number comes up big deal so somebody at the library knows that you don’t want perversion everywhere.
People could’ve done more without getting in trouble, a lot more and they didn’t. It made me sick. Children are suffering immensely.
Yes, thank you space man because I really didn’t mean you personally, but it just upset me because like I literally moved to a red state in my 50s, which was not comfortable at all to move. It was very scary for a woman like me who is always sheltered in a good area to live. It was worth it, but…
On my third night, I went to the store with my aunt to change my phone and get a new service to go on hers.
There was a tranny there and looked ridiculous because he was wearing skinny jeans. He was 6 foot four. He was wearing makeup. He had two days worth of shadow of a beard. He was wearing one of those red bandannas on his hair. He looked ridiculous and awful.
We got someone else to but so many people walked up to him like he was normal
That’s wrong of people to do when they know how bad life is for a lot of people now because of the perversion
When I was tutoring a while back, one of the students told me about his science teacher being gay, then a monthly that we find out that he was being molested and maybe raped, but he refused to tell the whole truth and refused to say anything against his science teacher. He started taking drugs after that, and he will never be the same. He was having bad nightmares. The last time I heard.
Same thing happened with my fifth grade teacher. When I was little he was gay, and he used to take the little boy who was the handsomest. All the girls loved him even when they were in kindergarten and he would talk to him about sex when I asked the boy what you talk about Mr. S with he told me oh he asked me if he like if I like tits by now and stuff and how do I get a chance to look at tits and he would draw me some tits
Of course M didn’t tell anybody and I didn’t know enough to tell people too.
You don’t understand how many kids are getting raped and molested because nobody is being aware of all the perverted things some men, and we even know women do
if they put the full statistics out for what trannies do people could protect their family.
Josh is saying that himself. He himself is against the gay guys who like boys. The Nambla and all that. He’s the first person who will speak against them and against pedophilia.
We need many more gay men to stick up for the children than to stick up for the tranny’s
We also need them to know that there are some pedophiles who are gay or transgender, and we shouldn’t act like every single one of them is innocent
I was working someplace where males were getting drug tested, and this gay guy really turned a lot of them off in many many were complaining about him
This one Z girl always stuck up for him and said because he was gay that he could absolutely not be doing anything wrong
We don’t have to think every gay person is doing something bad but we can acknowledge some and try to catch them I’m not even talking about gay, as much as pedophile. It’s the men and women who are going for under 18. I’m very sorry for the women I see in the news now who are molesting under 18 as well!!!!!
Just get rid of the pedophiles, whether they are gay or tranny or straight
You're right Josh. These types of men and women have always been around but when I was a kid in the 60s in Australia they were never celebrated they were pitied and/or avoided. They were identified and shamed by their behaviours eg deceitful, untrustworthy, hysterical, cruel, greedy, self centred etc. Now it seems as though society has lost discernment about such behaviours.
The TV show ER brought a lot of trouble accusing a lot of white people of racism
They also had a tranny episode in 2001 where nobody would even talk to the guy because it was shameful it was considered very shameful for a man to actually talk to one of them
So one of the doctors approached him very ashamedly and looked around to see if anybody was even watching
But at the end, they all felt sorry for him and they were doing this type of thing in the 90s until it got like this
I really appreciate you mentioning the fact that feminism's toxicity goes all the way back to the first wave! It bothers me--to a slightly irrational degree--whenever I hear people who are critical of modern-day feminism saying that the first and second waves were mostly good or wholly good. (To be fair, I used to believe the same thing myself.) In my experience, the more strongly people believe feminism was a fundamentally good movement that eventually lost its way, the harder it is for them to face uncomfortable truths, such as the fact that feminists aren't actually pro-equality. When they have an overly rosy view of historical feminism, it tends to influence their perception of modern-day feminism too. That's why it matters.
First-wave feminism claimed to want gender equality, yet the feminists of that time were totally okay with male-only military conscription. They also invented, supported, and popularized the Tender Years Doctrine, which became the legal standard in Western countries. It made mothers the default custodial parents and essentially stripped all parental rights from fathers while giving them to mothers. Feminists were totally okay with this too, and have loudly and viciously fought against all attempts to make the system more equal. The movement was never about equality. In my opinion, there aren't nearly enough people are pointing this out. The rot goes much deeper than people think it does. It goes all the way to the core.
I’m 100% of a mother I never wanted anything but to be a mother and the evil feminist and anyone who followed them ruined the lives of so many people
Now women think of men are toxic because 95% of women are going for the 5% guy who is a real alpha and can actually support you financially because of course women were not meant to be out all hours of the day and night working.
So these few alpha men are breaking women’s hearts all over a lot of men aren’t getting anybody at all and the sexes cannot get along
I know I talk about Iain McGilchrist too much but naturally this post made me think of his book again ... it just explains so much. He characterizes both narcissism and borderline personality as being disorders of left hemisphere dominance and right hemisphere dysfunction. He also claims this of autism, anxiety disorders, schizophrenia, body dysmorphia, eating disorders, and multiple personality disorders. All of which are positively correlated with each other.
I wrote an essay arguing that the left hemisphere has more misogynistic and misandristic tendencies -- also explaining why so many academics, journalists, and social media addicts tend this way.
I agree that there seems to be a bigger / growing problem with women compared to men. While I don't doubt the cultural causes, I still think that hormonal disruption and nutritional deficiencies are at play -- more common in women for various reasons (beauty products, diet culture, body positive culture, birth control pills, etc etc).
I think we do not see enough scrutiny of these environmental factors. It can't all be upbringing. Seed oils, the stuff they put in cosmetics, even the water supply is full of estrogen.
I've tried but it's such a vast topic ... but yeah toxic stuff in, toxic stuff out. I suspect at least some cases of disordered personality could be alleviated, but you'd have to treat gut issues and remove environmental toxins first.
I would argue physiology is the basis for it all. I suspect a huge amount would be solved by examining this issue and fixing it. The numbers claiming to be gay or sexually different are not normal.
Until we do fix this issue I think we are in for a bumpy ride. That said, as individuals there is much we can do. I am fairly strict with my diet these days.
I agree. Last year, I favoured nurture / cultural factors as the explanation (and I still think they partially are), but as I dug more into nutrition / pharma factors I started to think they were more significant.
- B vitamin deficiency in women might trigger homosexuality or bisexuality
- Birth control pills deplete various nutrients, including B vitamins, and disrupt hormones, and may trigger "asexuality" and bisexuality. Women on BC are more likely to prescribed SSRIs later.
- Beauty and skincare products are full of crap.
- Sunscreen is full of crap, also blocks Vitamin D production, which disrupts circadian rhythms / sleep and hormones -- Vitamin D deficiency seems to be extremely common among people with autism / ADHD, is implicated in anxiety and depression -- and in borderline personality disorder. Also common in trans-identifying people.
- Synthetic vitamins, in particular folic acid (synthetic folate), can disrupt appetite, methylation, and detoxification in people with sensitive genes.
On the last one, I actually did a deep dive, including interviewing a doctor (who specializes in working with LGBT people) who thinks folic acid in prenatal vitamins and fortified foods might be largely driving the trans contagion and autism epidemic. I found a lot of evidence to support his theory:
People with nutrient deficiencies (or functional nutrient deficiencies from a diet high in lab-made vitamins) are significantly less resilient to stress. So a kid from an abusive household is probably going to struggle a lot more if they eat crap compared to a kid who experiences the same level of abuse but has a healthy diet :-/
I'm a mother of two, and something that really horrifies me is how awful almost all of the advice I've gotten from healthcare workers regarding my kids -- Tylenol recommended for almost everything (Tylenol depletes glutathione, impairing detoxification, and is linked to higher rates of ADHD and autism). Miralax is the only recommendation for constipation (is addictive and can cause behavioural issues). Rice cereal recommended as a first food (gut dysbiosis). Cheerios recommended as a first food (folic acid, sugar, flour, gut dysbiosis, sugar addiction). Prenatal vitamins recommended during pregnancy (folic acid in prenatals, see above). They also push Ibuprofen and Tylenol on you right after you give birth, which slow healing, deplete glutathione, and numb empathy -- I healed way faster after my second pregnancy because I refused to take any painkillers. You can't trust doctors or nurses, and this makes it so hard.
I know you've said this stuff before in your show, but it's still true, so thank you for putting it in writing to share for those who read rather than watch videos. It seems to me people who say these toxic behaviors are because men are evil or women are evil are just exposing their hatred. It's those who aren't sexist and also hate the toxic behaviors who can see it for what it really is.
"Some estimates that surveyed college students in a large university (forgive me I don’t have the citation to hand) found that more than 20 percent of female students qualified for a Histrionic Personality Disorder diagnosis."
I wonder how many still are HPD after age 25, when their brains finish developing. Young men also score pretty high for sociopathy at that age, because high-school and college students are irrational and stupid.
Sociopathy is not necessarily irrational or stupid. It is a deficit in empathy. An inability to empathize. It seems innate too. It is noticeable in some children.
Maturity probably helps mask some of these tendencies.
I think you are correct. I suspect some kind of Pareto effect is at play. A small number of individuals account for the majority of the very loud pontificating online. This then drives some of the legislation and the culture shift towards women.
Over the last decade dating app data has confirmed a huge number of women chase the same small group of men. Something like 90 percent plus of women chasing 5 percent of men. An unflattering observation that is playing out right now in real time.
These men are spoiled for choice and the unsaid part is they often display narcissistic and Machiavellian traits women are attracted to. This observable phenomenon, a small number of attractive men nailing most of the active women, mean a lot of broken hearts. It is these episodes that feed into the toxic male narrative that is now dominating despite the fact that women simultaneously complain most men are wimps, they won't approach them or chat them up.
We are surely tired of these obvious manipulations. Young women choosing exciting adventures then complaining no one will wife them up. They wanted absolute freedom to choose and now they have it.
That is just one example from our distorted world, although it is symptomatic of narcissistic arrogance; they can never be the problem. What a world.
The prescriptions data for antidepressants is stark, but is ignored along with the dating app data. The dating apps are particularly interesting as they easily capture real world behaviours, whereas before they had to extrapolate from surveys etc. And the conclusions are bleak.
None of it is flattering to the feminist agenda. Many more women are concluding the variants of hookup culture they are told to embrace are really high value male sexual strategies.
Male sexual strategy is focused on maximum access to the highest number of available women with the minimum of responsibility or effort.
Female sexual strategy is pinning down one high value male and bonding with him.
These are slight exaggerations, but illustrate the point. Young women will not gain satisfaction from behaving like men. It is a tragedy.
As for the 1950s; it is now widely understood the popular trope of a trapped housewife washing down the valium with copious amounts of gin while her husband had some kind of enjoyable career was nonsense.
Not a big supporter of anti-depressants, but I'm sure that depression-driven suicides (of men and women, both) were, let's say, underreported in the 50s. Now, discreet death clinics in Switzerland make depression-driven suicidal ideation a reality for people who could have been treated, at least to some degree of success, with these same "happy pills."
I'm so very grateful that I met the woman who became my wife, and still is, way back before dating apps existed (or even the Internet), when you just happened to encounter someone, got to know her naturally, and developed a relationship together. No "window shopping".
Indeed. It has much to recommend it. Online shopping for women promises much but doesn't really work. It seems to be even worse for the ladies.
When you meet organically as you did you are sizing the person up right away. You get a real sense of who they are in person. Online it is more like buying a couch from Ikea; you get to pick the colour and the level of upholstery, not too thick of course. Sounds great, you must be able to narrow it down to only hot babes etc. But it turns out people are three-dimensional beings who defy easy classification. That has been my experience anyway.
Think of all the unlikely couples you know who made it. Hard to believe their zoomer equivalents will ever meet.
Exactly. I'm half of one of those unlikely couples. My wife was way more attractive than me, and I was making chump change as a phone booth repairman. That kind of relationship can only start and flourish organically.
This is people without a real and submitted relationship with Jesus. You might as well accept it and get used to it. Satan has been having a helluva' time. Killing the ego is not popular with the inhabitants of Earth.
The more that you run or lift your hands over your head or do squats or anything that’s physical you get more testosterone. When you do really big motions, especially when you lift weights.
When you sit down and do a little things you get more estrogen. When you do a little crafts, when you do writing.(no offense I’m sure you do more than writing.)
But when they do this all day every day, they are learning to be girls. They are learning to be submissive. They are learning not to think.
As a former teacher, I encourage anyone not to send their kids to school. I’m serious.
The way things are today, I would never, under any circumstances, put a kid in public school in the U.S. I would do whatever was necessary to home school. All of the home-schooled children I've ever met have been better educated, better socialized, and more mature than their public-schooled peers.
It’s no longer a war of the sexes...it’s a war against moral clarity. We’re seeing the legitimization of Cluster B styles of relating by those consumed by performance, projection, and punitive control, often under the banner of moral superiority, battling those who still value accountability, mutuality, respect, dignity, and grounded moral clarity.
Should have added that the covert/V-S narcissism as a feminine form was also linked by that author to gender narcissistic feminists. This is corroborated by Schoenewolf’s essay-turned-chapter “Gender narcissism and it’s manifestations.” Think this would interest you, given the theoretical link between maternal gender narcissism and homosexuality of offspring: https://www.booksfree.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/Psychoanalytic-Centrism-pdf-free-download.pdf
This is not unique to one side of the political spectrum. It is all over the place. I am so glad you have brought up this topic.
There seems to be a lot of hypocrisy and control disguised as real relationships in the conservative, religious world. Alot of people are happy to enable supposedly religious and 'consevative' couples just so they don't have to see the narcissism, control and abuse that is actually at the root of their identity. Anyone that sees them for who they are, gets torn down, gets lied about, and suffers through smear campaigns. Malignant narcissists and cluster Bs are in control for sure.
I have heard this can happen when a society becomes more centralized, because you don't have to actually rely on others' integrity, hardwork, and teamwork to survive. You can rely on big govt and all's it's arms.
Instead, society is incentivized to only look like you have virtue, but not to actually have it. That's how you get ahead. That's how you make friends. Then they tear down anyone with real virtue. And they can because no one needs us anymore, and really most of society is happy to see us go.
Nyeah-nyeah.
Nyeah. My disdain is for social trash. Nyeah.
People are responsible for their actions. Yes, parents who abuse their children are, in fact, responsible for abusing their children. Yes, narcissistic and borderline people are, in actual fact, morally responsible for when they abuse other people.
I'm not sure where the disagreement is coming from.
Yes, I'm talking about what the religious call "sin." Correct. I really can't read your intent. On the surface, it looks like you're upset with what I wrote or think there's something terrible about it that you disagree with, but I can't figure out what that is.
I relate to this. I just finished skimming the FB posts of a few formerly dear liberal "friends" who I'm still -- nominally -- friends with, but only because they have not publicly threatened to kill someone. They don't want to hear anything I'm actually thinking. I tried to start conversations after Trump, but that was just very bad.
But this group of women (and some men) encompasses almost everyone I ever knew and was close to. Combine that with the fact that I'm a woman with masculine sensibilities on things related to order, and .... well ... my in-group is really small right now because I get so sick of bullshit so fast.
Sorry to hear that. I’m sure it’s all too common. And probably a good number of that “in” crowd have similar values to you but just much less courage.
Janice Fiamengo’s claim that “ feminism was a hate movement since the beginning” inspired me to engage in a process of learning and deep inquiry. Carrie Gress and Mary Harrington were two other helpful voices in relieving me of my own damaging limitations acquired from living in the toxic cultural soup of its legacy. Like much of liberal idealism the feminist let’s say mind virus runs cover, justification and violent dramatization for victimhood/victimizer scapegoat cultists. Our still “nominally friends” are suffering to stay asleep. Perhaps we can offer them freedom… listen, ask questions, and stay free ourselves. Educating ourselves is a good start. We need to understand the cluster B, the Marxist mind virus etc. so we can call it out effectively
https://open.substack.com/pub/fiamengofile/p/feminism-is-a-dangerous-pseudo-religion?r=18ougb&utm_medium=ios
It was always about hate that’s why everybody is so damn miserable now.
I am one of your people, a woman with masculine sensibilities valuing logic and order.
I find that I tend to take on masculine traits when faced with crazy ideas and “emotional” thinking.
Same. I have an emotional/neurotic personality closer to female-typical in a lot of ways. But when it's someone else in melt down, like a friend, I can easily remain calm and help in a rational way. It's much harder to do for myself.
I think there is a solid intuition here Josh. And it probably generalises well to almost every axis of mutual demonisation in our culture. Maybe the real issue is the culture has started promoting the symptoms of Cluster B instead of sanctioning the people who exhibit them - who parade them in fact.
I think a big problem is Cluster B is driven by serious energy. They are crazy. It is their entire worldview that is at stake. So it requires a lot of energy from us to stop.
We see it with the trans stuff. We all know it is nonsense but go along for an easy life. This mostly works, but when a seriously unhinged trans person appears we often lack the mechanisms to deal with them.
Good point about the energy. We used to have a word for that energy - hysteria. 😁
Indeed. But nonetheless, while we go to work and get on with life a layer of society is scheming and plotting to destroy it all. Throw in generous funding from distant billionaires and we even have the ringleaders destructing our world and making a living from it.
That is why the only solution is complete intolerance of their bullshit. Throw them out of meetings, exile them from polite society. Call them out on their bullshit.
No, we should not all go for it for easy life
When I was shopping, there was a guy who was the cashier who was a tranny
It made me sick. The people who just went up to him and acted like he was normal.
I went to another cashier if someone said, why did you go to that other cashier I would say mind your business
Any of you cowards who didn’t go to another cashier is fucking evil because they are the ones who allowed all this shit to continue because they wouldn’t just go to another cashier or not go to the library at pride month. Call the library and tell them hey you know I’m not going on pride month
would that kill you?
I was making a general observation. Many go along with it for a peaceful life and it doesn't intrude too much. Also people can face serious repercussions depending on the environment.
Yes, but I was extremely disappointed in humanity that people couldn’t even lift a finger
They are ripping little boys dicks off as we speak, and there is a guy from Texas, who could not get the courts to not rip his kids dick off
Do you see how bad it is?!
What if you were that father? !
And what I’m saying is people couldn’t even lift a finger by not going to the tranny stuff , they didn’t have to participate, they could call the library and say in their opinion, they shouldn’t have pride. That’s not gonna let anybody know who it is even if your number comes up big deal so somebody at the library knows that you don’t want perversion everywhere.
People could’ve done more without getting in trouble, a lot more and they didn’t. It made me sick. Children are suffering immensely.
Yes I agree. Things have went too far.
Yes, thank you space man because I really didn’t mean you personally, but it just upset me because like I literally moved to a red state in my 50s, which was not comfortable at all to move. It was very scary for a woman like me who is always sheltered in a good area to live. It was worth it, but…
On my third night, I went to the store with my aunt to change my phone and get a new service to go on hers.
There was a tranny there and looked ridiculous because he was wearing skinny jeans. He was 6 foot four. He was wearing makeup. He had two days worth of shadow of a beard. He was wearing one of those red bandannas on his hair. He looked ridiculous and awful.
We got someone else to but so many people walked up to him like he was normal
That’s wrong of people to do when they know how bad life is for a lot of people now because of the perversion
When I was tutoring a while back, one of the students told me about his science teacher being gay, then a monthly that we find out that he was being molested and maybe raped, but he refused to tell the whole truth and refused to say anything against his science teacher. He started taking drugs after that, and he will never be the same. He was having bad nightmares. The last time I heard.
Same thing happened with my fifth grade teacher. When I was little he was gay, and he used to take the little boy who was the handsomest. All the girls loved him even when they were in kindergarten and he would talk to him about sex when I asked the boy what you talk about Mr. S with he told me oh he asked me if he like if I like tits by now and stuff and how do I get a chance to look at tits and he would draw me some tits
Of course M didn’t tell anybody and I didn’t know enough to tell people too.
You don’t understand how many kids are getting raped and molested because nobody is being aware of all the perverted things some men, and we even know women do
if they put the full statistics out for what trannies do people could protect their family.
Josh is saying that himself. He himself is against the gay guys who like boys. The Nambla and all that. He’s the first person who will speak against them and against pedophilia.
We need many more gay men to stick up for the children than to stick up for the tranny’s
We also need them to know that there are some pedophiles who are gay or transgender, and we shouldn’t act like every single one of them is innocent
I was working someplace where males were getting drug tested, and this gay guy really turned a lot of them off in many many were complaining about him
This one Z girl always stuck up for him and said because he was gay that he could absolutely not be doing anything wrong
We don’t have to think every gay person is doing something bad but we can acknowledge some and try to catch them I’m not even talking about gay, as much as pedophile. It’s the men and women who are going for under 18. I’m very sorry for the women I see in the news now who are molesting under 18 as well!!!!!
Just get rid of the pedophiles, whether they are gay or tranny or straight
You're right Josh. These types of men and women have always been around but when I was a kid in the 60s in Australia they were never celebrated they were pitied and/or avoided. They were identified and shamed by their behaviours eg deceitful, untrustworthy, hysterical, cruel, greedy, self centred etc. Now it seems as though society has lost discernment about such behaviours.
Exactly
The TV show ER brought a lot of trouble accusing a lot of white people of racism
They also had a tranny episode in 2001 where nobody would even talk to the guy because it was shameful it was considered very shameful for a man to actually talk to one of them
So one of the doctors approached him very ashamedly and looked around to see if anybody was even watching
But at the end, they all felt sorry for him and they were doing this type of thing in the 90s until it got like this
I really appreciate you mentioning the fact that feminism's toxicity goes all the way back to the first wave! It bothers me--to a slightly irrational degree--whenever I hear people who are critical of modern-day feminism saying that the first and second waves were mostly good or wholly good. (To be fair, I used to believe the same thing myself.) In my experience, the more strongly people believe feminism was a fundamentally good movement that eventually lost its way, the harder it is for them to face uncomfortable truths, such as the fact that feminists aren't actually pro-equality. When they have an overly rosy view of historical feminism, it tends to influence their perception of modern-day feminism too. That's why it matters.
First-wave feminism claimed to want gender equality, yet the feminists of that time were totally okay with male-only military conscription. They also invented, supported, and popularized the Tender Years Doctrine, which became the legal standard in Western countries. It made mothers the default custodial parents and essentially stripped all parental rights from fathers while giving them to mothers. Feminists were totally okay with this too, and have loudly and viciously fought against all attempts to make the system more equal. The movement was never about equality. In my opinion, there aren't nearly enough people are pointing this out. The rot goes much deeper than people think it does. It goes all the way to the core.
I’m 100% of a mother I never wanted anything but to be a mother and the evil feminist and anyone who followed them ruined the lives of so many people
Now women think of men are toxic because 95% of women are going for the 5% guy who is a real alpha and can actually support you financially because of course women were not meant to be out all hours of the day and night working.
So these few alpha men are breaking women’s hearts all over a lot of men aren’t getting anybody at all and the sexes cannot get along
I know I talk about Iain McGilchrist too much but naturally this post made me think of his book again ... it just explains so much. He characterizes both narcissism and borderline personality as being disorders of left hemisphere dominance and right hemisphere dysfunction. He also claims this of autism, anxiety disorders, schizophrenia, body dysmorphia, eating disorders, and multiple personality disorders. All of which are positively correlated with each other.
I wrote an essay arguing that the left hemisphere has more misogynistic and misandristic tendencies -- also explaining why so many academics, journalists, and social media addicts tend this way.
https://thecassandracomplex.substack.com/p/the-androgynous-mind
I agree that there seems to be a bigger / growing problem with women compared to men. While I don't doubt the cultural causes, I still think that hormonal disruption and nutritional deficiencies are at play -- more common in women for various reasons (beauty products, diet culture, body positive culture, birth control pills, etc etc).
I think we do not see enough scrutiny of these environmental factors. It can't all be upbringing. Seed oils, the stuff they put in cosmetics, even the water supply is full of estrogen.
No one is really tackling this.
We eat a plastic credit card every week when you put all the little micro plastics and crap together
That is a scary observation.
I've tried but it's such a vast topic ... but yeah toxic stuff in, toxic stuff out. I suspect at least some cases of disordered personality could be alleviated, but you'd have to treat gut issues and remove environmental toxins first.
I would argue physiology is the basis for it all. I suspect a huge amount would be solved by examining this issue and fixing it. The numbers claiming to be gay or sexually different are not normal.
Until we do fix this issue I think we are in for a bumpy ride. That said, as individuals there is much we can do. I am fairly strict with my diet these days.
I agree. Last year, I favoured nurture / cultural factors as the explanation (and I still think they partially are), but as I dug more into nutrition / pharma factors I started to think they were more significant.
- B vitamin deficiency in women might trigger homosexuality or bisexuality
- Birth control pills deplete various nutrients, including B vitamins, and disrupt hormones, and may trigger "asexuality" and bisexuality. Women on BC are more likely to prescribed SSRIs later.
- Beauty and skincare products are full of crap.
- Sunscreen is full of crap, also blocks Vitamin D production, which disrupts circadian rhythms / sleep and hormones -- Vitamin D deficiency seems to be extremely common among people with autism / ADHD, is implicated in anxiety and depression -- and in borderline personality disorder. Also common in trans-identifying people.
- Synthetic vitamins, in particular folic acid (synthetic folate), can disrupt appetite, methylation, and detoxification in people with sensitive genes.
On the last one, I actually did a deep dive, including interviewing a doctor (who specializes in working with LGBT people) who thinks folic acid in prenatal vitamins and fortified foods might be largely driving the trans contagion and autism epidemic. I found a lot of evidence to support his theory:
https://thecassandracomplex.substack.com/p/down-the-folic-acid-rabbit-hole
People with nutrient deficiencies (or functional nutrient deficiencies from a diet high in lab-made vitamins) are significantly less resilient to stress. So a kid from an abusive household is probably going to struggle a lot more if they eat crap compared to a kid who experiences the same level of abuse but has a healthy diet :-/
Absolutely frightening. The more we tinker, the more we break.
I'm a mother of two, and something that really horrifies me is how awful almost all of the advice I've gotten from healthcare workers regarding my kids -- Tylenol recommended for almost everything (Tylenol depletes glutathione, impairing detoxification, and is linked to higher rates of ADHD and autism). Miralax is the only recommendation for constipation (is addictive and can cause behavioural issues). Rice cereal recommended as a first food (gut dysbiosis). Cheerios recommended as a first food (folic acid, sugar, flour, gut dysbiosis, sugar addiction). Prenatal vitamins recommended during pregnancy (folic acid in prenatals, see above). They also push Ibuprofen and Tylenol on you right after you give birth, which slow healing, deplete glutathione, and numb empathy -- I healed way faster after my second pregnancy because I refused to take any painkillers. You can't trust doctors or nurses, and this makes it so hard.
Nail on the head , Josh! 👍
I know you've said this stuff before in your show, but it's still true, so thank you for putting it in writing to share for those who read rather than watch videos. It seems to me people who say these toxic behaviors are because men are evil or women are evil are just exposing their hatred. It's those who aren't sexist and also hate the toxic behaviors who can see it for what it really is.
"Some estimates that surveyed college students in a large university (forgive me I don’t have the citation to hand) found that more than 20 percent of female students qualified for a Histrionic Personality Disorder diagnosis."
I wonder how many still are HPD after age 25, when their brains finish developing. Young men also score pretty high for sociopathy at that age, because high-school and college students are irrational and stupid.
Sociopathy is not necessarily irrational or stupid. It is a deficit in empathy. An inability to empathize. It seems innate too. It is noticeable in some children.
Maturity probably helps mask some of these tendencies.
I think you are correct. I suspect some kind of Pareto effect is at play. A small number of individuals account for the majority of the very loud pontificating online. This then drives some of the legislation and the culture shift towards women.
Over the last decade dating app data has confirmed a huge number of women chase the same small group of men. Something like 90 percent plus of women chasing 5 percent of men. An unflattering observation that is playing out right now in real time.
These men are spoiled for choice and the unsaid part is they often display narcissistic and Machiavellian traits women are attracted to. This observable phenomenon, a small number of attractive men nailing most of the active women, mean a lot of broken hearts. It is these episodes that feed into the toxic male narrative that is now dominating despite the fact that women simultaneously complain most men are wimps, they won't approach them or chat them up.
We are surely tired of these obvious manipulations. Young women choosing exciting adventures then complaining no one will wife them up. They wanted absolute freedom to choose and now they have it.
That is just one example from our distorted world, although it is symptomatic of narcissistic arrogance; they can never be the problem. What a world.
Exactly it’s sickening. It was perfect in the 50s compared to this.
We are taking 17 times the depression medication and then in the 50s
It’s been a horrible life because of these people, totally abnormal of what I thought of life I would have
The prescriptions data for antidepressants is stark, but is ignored along with the dating app data. The dating apps are particularly interesting as they easily capture real world behaviours, whereas before they had to extrapolate from surveys etc. And the conclusions are bleak.
None of it is flattering to the feminist agenda. Many more women are concluding the variants of hookup culture they are told to embrace are really high value male sexual strategies.
Male sexual strategy is focused on maximum access to the highest number of available women with the minimum of responsibility or effort.
Female sexual strategy is pinning down one high value male and bonding with him.
These are slight exaggerations, but illustrate the point. Young women will not gain satisfaction from behaving like men. It is a tragedy.
As for the 1950s; it is now widely understood the popular trope of a trapped housewife washing down the valium with copious amounts of gin while her husband had some kind of enjoyable career was nonsense.
Not a big supporter of anti-depressants, but I'm sure that depression-driven suicides (of men and women, both) were, let's say, underreported in the 50s. Now, discreet death clinics in Switzerland make depression-driven suicidal ideation a reality for people who could have been treated, at least to some degree of success, with these same "happy pills."
"Dating app data"
I'm so very grateful that I met the woman who became my wife, and still is, way back before dating apps existed (or even the Internet), when you just happened to encounter someone, got to know her naturally, and developed a relationship together. No "window shopping".
Indeed. It has much to recommend it. Online shopping for women promises much but doesn't really work. It seems to be even worse for the ladies.
When you meet organically as you did you are sizing the person up right away. You get a real sense of who they are in person. Online it is more like buying a couch from Ikea; you get to pick the colour and the level of upholstery, not too thick of course. Sounds great, you must be able to narrow it down to only hot babes etc. But it turns out people are three-dimensional beings who defy easy classification. That has been my experience anyway.
Think of all the unlikely couples you know who made it. Hard to believe their zoomer equivalents will ever meet.
Exactly. I'm half of one of those unlikely couples. My wife was way more attractive than me, and I was making chump change as a phone booth repairman. That kind of relationship can only start and flourish organically.
This is people without a real and submitted relationship with Jesus. You might as well accept it and get used to it. Satan has been having a helluva' time. Killing the ego is not popular with the inhabitants of Earth.
Josh, you are really onto something!
I worked in many schools.
Schools are terrible for boys.
The more that you run or lift your hands over your head or do squats or anything that’s physical you get more testosterone. When you do really big motions, especially when you lift weights.
When you sit down and do a little things you get more estrogen. When you do a little crafts, when you do writing.(no offense I’m sure you do more than writing.)
But when they do this all day every day, they are learning to be girls. They are learning to be submissive. They are learning not to think.
As a former teacher, I encourage anyone not to send their kids to school. I’m serious.
The way things are today, I would never, under any circumstances, put a kid in public school in the U.S. I would do whatever was necessary to home school. All of the home-schooled children I've ever met have been better educated, better socialized, and more mature than their public-schooled peers.
Me too! 100%. Thank God, there are sane parents like you. Only sane people are going to save us from the nuts!!!
It’s no longer a war of the sexes...it’s a war against moral clarity. We’re seeing the legitimization of Cluster B styles of relating by those consumed by performance, projection, and punitive control, often under the banner of moral superiority, battling those who still value accountability, mutuality, respect, dignity, and grounded moral clarity.
Apparently, the latter are the insane ones.
Love and appreciate your clarity, Josh.
This is more insightful than you realize. Two thoughts in support:
- this author proposed that covert/vulnerable-sensitive is a feminine form of narcissism, which may in part help explain why the official narcissism numbers seem low: https://books.friesenpress.com/store/title/119734000010478091/Michael-M.-McConaughey-The-Mirror
- while conceptual and therefore primitive, this lecture proposed a progressively worsening narcissism-based interpretation of the civilizational decline and fall mechanics: https://rumble.com/v14oh4n-narcissism-knowledge-and-myth-towards-a-universal-historiography-with-steph.html
Should have added that the covert/V-S narcissism as a feminine form was also linked by that author to gender narcissistic feminists. This is corroborated by Schoenewolf’s essay-turned-chapter “Gender narcissism and it’s manifestations.” Think this would interest you, given the theoretical link between maternal gender narcissism and homosexuality of offspring: https://www.booksfree.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/Psychoanalytic-Centrism-pdf-free-download.pdf
This is not unique to one side of the political spectrum. It is all over the place. I am so glad you have brought up this topic.
There seems to be a lot of hypocrisy and control disguised as real relationships in the conservative, religious world. Alot of people are happy to enable supposedly religious and 'consevative' couples just so they don't have to see the narcissism, control and abuse that is actually at the root of their identity. Anyone that sees them for who they are, gets torn down, gets lied about, and suffers through smear campaigns. Malignant narcissists and cluster Bs are in control for sure.
I have heard this can happen when a society becomes more centralized, because you don't have to actually rely on others' integrity, hardwork, and teamwork to survive. You can rely on big govt and all's it's arms.
Instead, society is incentivized to only look like you have virtue, but not to actually have it. That's how you get ahead. That's how you make friends. Then they tear down anyone with real virtue. And they can because no one needs us anymore, and really most of society is happy to see us go.
Can anyone else relate to this?