I also had a fascination with Greek myths, deep meaning stories that are archetypes for human emotional patterns. However I have never seen the connection between the Medusa legend and, as you put it, "innocent girls who were abused and broken, and who turned into monsters", thanks for this insight. I have met a few "Medusas' too over my lifetime.
Very well put. I couldn't agree more. I liked what Matt Walsh said about women today- that they demand to be a part of everything that is a man thing. The Boy Scouts can't be for boys anymore. It's beyond creepy. Couldn't the feminists have stopped when they got the vote? No, it's all about control and destruction. Watching Kamala point her finger while she publicly speaks in her angry tone ("how dare we say Merry Christmas"...) is not a sign of a leader, much less the POS. I'm seeing snakes slithering around her head now...
Reading what you said about the Boy Scouts, it occurred to me that although I'm 100 percent against men in women's sports, maybe it's some kind of karma.
Except most of the women who play sports competitively tend to be just relatively normal girls and women. They shouldn't be punished for the sins of the feminist establishment.
May this note find us all ever closer to God, and His Peace.
Men in women sports connection/reaction because of; to women in all men's spaces, disposing fathers and men in younger education, the Sickness of false-derived resentment and fear of men, who attack and target men never trying to understand us, filled with twisted hate-based 'gender studies' delusional psychology?
As therapists we are taught to see through the head of snakes and the stone-turning ability to the person on the inside, who once was beautiful but was soiled and now presents as a monster.
In the clinical setting this perspective is required to inspire hope in those who may have had their innocence lost (or stolen from them) along the way. In everyday interactions though, we are wise to keep our guard up. Within every Darth Vader is a little bit of good. In every Medusa, beauty ripped away. We can reject the behaviors while loving the person, but never to our detriment.
In these days and times, I fear that the narrative has been not to reject the murderous evils, but merely to overlook them; to see the loving intent while ignoring the disastrous ramifications. This occurs in policy, politics, and interpersonal relationships. It occurs in business, industry, and churches. It is everywhere.
Stopping evil requires acknowledgment of it, not pretending that it doesn't exist. I believe that humans are not evil unto themselves, but vessels for evil to be perpetrated upon others. We should not wave a casual hand and dismiss it simply because the person is "being used by the Devil" but rather, we should implement firm boundaries by saying no to the wicked deeds while loving the broken human inside.
We must separate the behaviors from the person because Medusa is in all of us but that does not mean repeatedly exposing ourselves to damage and destruction. It does mean that we don't wrap ourselves in bitterness and resentment, lest we be tempted to walk down that same path, and the cycle repeats.
It is not about us, it is about them. It is their battle to fight, not ours. It is their cross to bear, not ours. And it requires us first saying, "No. I do not permit you to treat me like this."
Like all social problems, the solution is more virtue. It's especially difficult because we also require virtue from women. In my theory of morality, I have identified prerequisites to virtue. One of those prerequisites is accountability, something many women apparently struggle with.
If more people can understand that accountability is a prerequisite to virtue, we will see these women for what they are: definitely not virtuous.
Women “struggle with this” because the West has so entitled them across all spheres that not getting their way causes instant eruption. Because we open their door and carry their packages they expect immediate subservience across every aspect of society. Enfranchising women moved this demanded subservience into the political sphere and was a civilizational mistake. If not undone, there simply is no way that civilization survives. We are undoubtedly a matriarchy now; no successful matriarchy exists in the historical record. Women are demonstrating why this is so.
I agree with you, but I think the things you're saying are a big part of the problem. Women have agency, they know right from wrong, they can choose virtue or sin. Yet, whenever we broach the subject of female misbehavior, people typically look for societal causes just like you did. If women want to be virtuous, they have to be accountable, and I think we should expect that from them.
Agree on accountability, but that’s not the bigger problem of enfranchising them. Think about it. All of the major social pathologies stem from empathy: “Oh that poor ….” Illegal alien, fatherless gangbanger, incarcerated thug, crappy teacher “doing her best…”, etc. Women vote empathy. Disenfranchise them and we’d have a safer, freer, more prosperous and freer society. And who would benefit the most from a safer society? The women who vote against it.
It could be that the quickest way to get women to give up their new authority is to start holding them responsible for things like men. One way of getting people to reconsider the 19th amendment is to start drafting women for war.
Personally, I think women hate responsibility a lot more than they like having authority. I think most women will discard their authority if they have to be responsible, but I'm open to being proven wrong.
The draft is just an example. A lot of men would sign up for the draft in order to retain the right to vote, very few women would do the same.
yes, you should. I would note that women having this much agency is a new thing, while nearly all ethical philosophy is focused on correcting the behaviors that males struggle with such as violence. There's less focus on lies, gossip, and manipulation. As women figure out how to be women again, we also need to determine a feminine code of ethics.
Yes Selina, I have often thought that the social damage women (we all) do need to be criminalized and punished in significant meaningful ways that cross all boundaries such as sex, wealth, status, etc.
Notice it would be Loving to punish in public Pain&Shame for lying and such crimes starting at 15-yo, that once a week in public park such offenders are tied to a post and tasered till pissing & screaming, videoed and put on-line, how many of us would even start lying if that was the case.
Something that results in work & school violence and shootings is the targeting of men by women & dog-males using Witch-Whisper-Web, that isolates and causes hostility directed to them from others due to Name-damage and lies, and is kept secrete from the victim causing confusion and suffering. Often when I hear of young men shooting up a school or employment locations I am sad because they likely did not shoot those (women) responsible; managers, and owners, (or not all of them it Just to kill) and those left will continue to spread such evil, but likely killed innocent others. Not vengeance, but since no Justice in system, defending self-others - Death is Just.
(of course, a public database where a person can file and warn others would provide a better solution.)
May this note find us all ever closer to God, and His Peace.
Perhaps you miswrote. We do NOT now require virtue from women. The are not expecteed to be accountable.
If the false-witness or false-accuse they are rarely to nearly never punished in proportion to the harm done; False rape accusations where one study shows that 80% of those reported to police were false (recanted, shown in investigation to be, to flimsy to convince a jury) and yet such studies are hidden (taken off FBI webpage, not found on Google, censored on social media when referenced) and those women who have life-long damaged the man, family and those dependent on him, sometimes jailed and raped-abused by guards and prisoners as a sex-criminal, those women do not go to jail to get same, or jail at all, often they profit as a victim, etc.
Of course, that 80% is for those who file a police report, a majority are whispered and never give the victim man an opportunity or even an idea that such lies are destroying his employment or personal life.
1/3 of us are Basterds do to parental fraud, as per a study of 90,000 children in National Blood Bank - 1/3 of them have wrong man as 'father', yet mothers are never punished when (rarely) this is shown- in UK it is not legal for the father to get tested with his children unless the mother agrees, as less formally women all through society will hide such a crime.
'Islam is right about women' was an uncomfortable statement-meme because it could not be called racist as 'It is okay to be white' was. But given such untrustworthiness of women as measured in such studies, 1/3 testimonial value of a man seems too high. The 1/3 value in some Islamic societies based on women (everyone) facing stoning to death for False-witnessing, where in West they are rewarded - a good value to use would be based on the last 5-years statistics of such studies, if reliable men can be found to do an honest job of it.
Anyway, the western-wide damage to rationality of generations of fatherlessness and female-feelie-logic and acceptance of insanity such as men-in-women's sports, to allow mothers to kill our children instead of controlling their lust-power-black-mail as men do and not have sex unless willing to be a mother and not murderer.
Thanks for mention Virtue as a factor. I believe a better society-West-world would exist if many civil powers were given to only those who display virtues - as in volunteering for 4 years of community, national, or international service - with room-board and small money before allowed to vote, run for gov, work in gov, etc.
Also, would be Loving to punish in public Pain&Shame for lying and such crimes starting at 15-yo, where once a week in park such offenders are tied to a post and tasered till pissing & screaming, how many of us would even start lying if that was the case, and women treated as men would instill virtue, don't you think?
Right, you make some good points. If you're curious, I was saying we need virtue from women in order to solve these social problems. I agree that we don't currently demand virtue from women, and we rarely even attempt hold women accountable. Fundamentally, that is what has to change.
Interestingly, someone on our road put up two pumpkin people for the first time this year, and they are Perseus and Medusa. My husband and I both made Gorgon jokes about our Cluster B overlords. Always right on time, Josh.
I too love the greek myths. Obsessed with Pegasus as a kid. To ride such a steed, requires one to be worthy, that is of good character. Animals know if your are weak, malicious. You cannot lie to them very easily for long. The problem i have is, that i was abused, But, i do not think that justifies being cruel to others who did not abuse me. Only someone of weak character would do that. I have no respect for them. And Pity, is no substitute for respect.
May this note find us all ever closer to God, and His Peace.
As a Catholic for 6-7 years - after about 40-years of post-puberty psychological female-evil blindness, twisted feminist doctrine beliefs, etc I was Inspired one Blessed day by Holy Ghost, Clarity, that for example I had been betrayed by mother and nearly all women that have power-influence & media, my endless suffering self-hate etc was demonic, that me and my siblings - some dead now, others' lives and mind a mess, that it was Satanic and had to be addressed as such, as such directed to Catholic Church.
I discovered that the pre-VaticanII Traditional Church defined the world and our place and responsibilities so very well. (Note VaticanII is heretical in many significant places and many post-VII leaders are Graceless with 'Paper' Offices as they always intended to destroy the Church and replace with Satanic-Feminist-Communist-Protestation version)
And once we are post-puberty (or earlier) we are responsible for correcting ourselves, although I would respond that those of us who suffered psychological damage so that anti-feminism or even criticism of women were Hate-full to Mother, and womenhood .. enforced in all of society, that much flexibility in assumption of full blame for such twistedness requires Prudence, that bringing them around to rationality is Loving - and Prayer for same-similar Inspiration by Holy Ghost is most effective.
Honestly, love Greek myths especially celle ci, I must confess though that I'm eager to see men pick up their sword once more so to speak, its why I write more in the mode of Tolkien and write Greek myths into my fiction and novelize it and Norse ones with the virtues of Christianity and those ancients intact. We need more virtue, we need to push it always forward and we must never give ground.
I went to college many decades ago but already the student population was close to 50/50 men and women. Women were being taught they could be the CEO and also "Supper Mom." When the realities of life after college set in many of these women became mean and bitter. They wanted to crawl to the top but wanted to be seen in their peer group as that "awesome mom." But limitations on time and individual attention make this near impossible. I saw it with my own mother that would constantly harp on how demanding her job was and that we should be the kind of children to make her life as a mother easier. I've also worked for these women and let me tell you their frustration almost always gets directed at subordinates at work.
i had a female boss when I first started working. She had 1 daughter who was a successful journalist, she herself divorced early on as it turned out her husband was gay. Socially she was well liked but she was a horrible tyrant to all the women in our department (healthcare, 90% women in our department). Someone would leave her office in tears at least once a week. Other employees from different departments could always tell she was away when they walked through our department and everyone was happy and relaxed.
She was a "great" feminist. I say she was a miserable bitter woman who took out her frustration on her subordinates while taking credit for their hard work. Definitely a Medusa and while I feel some pitty for her personal relationship failure, she had no right to abuse her staff the way she did. This was back in the late '80s early '90s, I don't think she would have gotten away with it nowadays... but who knows.
I used to have nightmares about werewolves and at last realized the beast was my alcoholic father, so I really get this. And you're right, the animating beast of our age isn't the werewolf but the gorgon. I wrote this redemption story about Medusa's sister Euryale. https://mythicfiction.substack.com/p/a-garden-of-silence-part-1 I might need to do one about Medusa now with your essay in mind. It feels present.
I also had a fascination with Greek myths, deep meaning stories that are archetypes for human emotional patterns. However I have never seen the connection between the Medusa legend and, as you put it, "innocent girls who were abused and broken, and who turned into monsters", thanks for this insight. I have met a few "Medusas' too over my lifetime.
Very well put. I couldn't agree more. I liked what Matt Walsh said about women today- that they demand to be a part of everything that is a man thing. The Boy Scouts can't be for boys anymore. It's beyond creepy. Couldn't the feminists have stopped when they got the vote? No, it's all about control and destruction. Watching Kamala point her finger while she publicly speaks in her angry tone ("how dare we say Merry Christmas"...) is not a sign of a leader, much less the POS. I'm seeing snakes slithering around her head now...
Reading what you said about the Boy Scouts, it occurred to me that although I'm 100 percent against men in women's sports, maybe it's some kind of karma.
Except most of the women who play sports competitively tend to be just relatively normal girls and women. They shouldn't be punished for the sins of the feminist establishment.
You're right, they shouldn't. As I said, I'm 100 percent against men in women's sports.
May this note find us all ever closer to God, and His Peace.
Men in women sports connection/reaction because of; to women in all men's spaces, disposing fathers and men in younger education, the Sickness of false-derived resentment and fear of men, who attack and target men never trying to understand us, filled with twisted hate-based 'gender studies' delusional psychology?
Perhaps men driven to insanity by male-self-hate?
God Bless., Steve
Ha. That crossed my mind, too.
As therapists we are taught to see through the head of snakes and the stone-turning ability to the person on the inside, who once was beautiful but was soiled and now presents as a monster.
In the clinical setting this perspective is required to inspire hope in those who may have had their innocence lost (or stolen from them) along the way. In everyday interactions though, we are wise to keep our guard up. Within every Darth Vader is a little bit of good. In every Medusa, beauty ripped away. We can reject the behaviors while loving the person, but never to our detriment.
In these days and times, I fear that the narrative has been not to reject the murderous evils, but merely to overlook them; to see the loving intent while ignoring the disastrous ramifications. This occurs in policy, politics, and interpersonal relationships. It occurs in business, industry, and churches. It is everywhere.
Stopping evil requires acknowledgment of it, not pretending that it doesn't exist. I believe that humans are not evil unto themselves, but vessels for evil to be perpetrated upon others. We should not wave a casual hand and dismiss it simply because the person is "being used by the Devil" but rather, we should implement firm boundaries by saying no to the wicked deeds while loving the broken human inside.
We must separate the behaviors from the person because Medusa is in all of us but that does not mean repeatedly exposing ourselves to damage and destruction. It does mean that we don't wrap ourselves in bitterness and resentment, lest we be tempted to walk down that same path, and the cycle repeats.
It is not about us, it is about them. It is their battle to fight, not ours. It is their cross to bear, not ours. And it requires us first saying, "No. I do not permit you to treat me like this."
Great article.
Great comment!!! You put my own perspectives into words.
Josh’s Medusa is a very similar story to mine. And that’s the micro perspective but I see it in our systems (as you say) on a macro level also.
Like all social problems, the solution is more virtue. It's especially difficult because we also require virtue from women. In my theory of morality, I have identified prerequisites to virtue. One of those prerequisites is accountability, something many women apparently struggle with.
If more people can understand that accountability is a prerequisite to virtue, we will see these women for what they are: definitely not virtuous.
Women “struggle with this” because the West has so entitled them across all spheres that not getting their way causes instant eruption. Because we open their door and carry their packages they expect immediate subservience across every aspect of society. Enfranchising women moved this demanded subservience into the political sphere and was a civilizational mistake. If not undone, there simply is no way that civilization survives. We are undoubtedly a matriarchy now; no successful matriarchy exists in the historical record. Women are demonstrating why this is so.
I agree with you, but I think the things you're saying are a big part of the problem. Women have agency, they know right from wrong, they can choose virtue or sin. Yet, whenever we broach the subject of female misbehavior, people typically look for societal causes just like you did. If women want to be virtuous, they have to be accountable, and I think we should expect that from them.
Agree on accountability, but that’s not the bigger problem of enfranchising them. Think about it. All of the major social pathologies stem from empathy: “Oh that poor ….” Illegal alien, fatherless gangbanger, incarcerated thug, crappy teacher “doing her best…”, etc. Women vote empathy. Disenfranchise them and we’d have a safer, freer, more prosperous and freer society. And who would benefit the most from a safer society? The women who vote against it.
It could be that the quickest way to get women to give up their new authority is to start holding them responsible for things like men. One way of getting people to reconsider the 19th amendment is to start drafting women for war.
Personally, I think women hate responsibility a lot more than they like having authority. I think most women will discard their authority if they have to be responsible, but I'm open to being proven wrong.
The draft is just an example. A lot of men would sign up for the draft in order to retain the right to vote, very few women would do the same.
yes, you should. I would note that women having this much agency is a new thing, while nearly all ethical philosophy is focused on correcting the behaviors that males struggle with such as violence. There's less focus on lies, gossip, and manipulation. As women figure out how to be women again, we also need to determine a feminine code of ethics.
Yes Selina, I have often thought that the social damage women (we all) do need to be criminalized and punished in significant meaningful ways that cross all boundaries such as sex, wealth, status, etc.
Notice it would be Loving to punish in public Pain&Shame for lying and such crimes starting at 15-yo, that once a week in public park such offenders are tied to a post and tasered till pissing & screaming, videoed and put on-line, how many of us would even start lying if that was the case.
Something that results in work & school violence and shootings is the targeting of men by women & dog-males using Witch-Whisper-Web, that isolates and causes hostility directed to them from others due to Name-damage and lies, and is kept secrete from the victim causing confusion and suffering. Often when I hear of young men shooting up a school or employment locations I am sad because they likely did not shoot those (women) responsible; managers, and owners, (or not all of them it Just to kill) and those left will continue to spread such evil, but likely killed innocent others. Not vengeance, but since no Justice in system, defending self-others - Death is Just.
(of course, a public database where a person can file and warn others would provide a better solution.)
God Bless., Steve
What the Hades is wrong with you?
May this note find us all ever closer to God, and His Peace.
Perhaps you miswrote. We do NOT now require virtue from women. The are not expecteed to be accountable.
If the false-witness or false-accuse they are rarely to nearly never punished in proportion to the harm done; False rape accusations where one study shows that 80% of those reported to police were false (recanted, shown in investigation to be, to flimsy to convince a jury) and yet such studies are hidden (taken off FBI webpage, not found on Google, censored on social media when referenced) and those women who have life-long damaged the man, family and those dependent on him, sometimes jailed and raped-abused by guards and prisoners as a sex-criminal, those women do not go to jail to get same, or jail at all, often they profit as a victim, etc.
Of course, that 80% is for those who file a police report, a majority are whispered and never give the victim man an opportunity or even an idea that such lies are destroying his employment or personal life.
1/3 of us are Basterds do to parental fraud, as per a study of 90,000 children in National Blood Bank - 1/3 of them have wrong man as 'father', yet mothers are never punished when (rarely) this is shown- in UK it is not legal for the father to get tested with his children unless the mother agrees, as less formally women all through society will hide such a crime.
'Islam is right about women' was an uncomfortable statement-meme because it could not be called racist as 'It is okay to be white' was. But given such untrustworthiness of women as measured in such studies, 1/3 testimonial value of a man seems too high. The 1/3 value in some Islamic societies based on women (everyone) facing stoning to death for False-witnessing, where in West they are rewarded - a good value to use would be based on the last 5-years statistics of such studies, if reliable men can be found to do an honest job of it.
Anyway, the western-wide damage to rationality of generations of fatherlessness and female-feelie-logic and acceptance of insanity such as men-in-women's sports, to allow mothers to kill our children instead of controlling their lust-power-black-mail as men do and not have sex unless willing to be a mother and not murderer.
Thanks for mention Virtue as a factor. I believe a better society-West-world would exist if many civil powers were given to only those who display virtues - as in volunteering for 4 years of community, national, or international service - with room-board and small money before allowed to vote, run for gov, work in gov, etc.
Also, would be Loving to punish in public Pain&Shame for lying and such crimes starting at 15-yo, where once a week in park such offenders are tied to a post and tasered till pissing & screaming, how many of us would even start lying if that was the case, and women treated as men would instill virtue, don't you think?
God Bless., Steve
Right, you make some good points. If you're curious, I was saying we need virtue from women in order to solve these social problems. I agree that we don't currently demand virtue from women, and we rarely even attempt hold women accountable. Fundamentally, that is what has to change.
I think we all need to be Perseus. It’s time
Hi Regina!
Oh Josh. So chilling. But how wise your child self was.
Brilliant and true. Rather than misogyny there is misandry, and it is causing great harm, both in relationships and on a societal level.
Interestingly, someone on our road put up two pumpkin people for the first time this year, and they are Perseus and Medusa. My husband and I both made Gorgon jokes about our Cluster B overlords. Always right on time, Josh.
Outstanding
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Really great insights 🙌
Yes, I think the pendulum has swung too far the other way. Now to find balance.
I too love the greek myths. Obsessed with Pegasus as a kid. To ride such a steed, requires one to be worthy, that is of good character. Animals know if your are weak, malicious. You cannot lie to them very easily for long. The problem i have is, that i was abused, But, i do not think that justifies being cruel to others who did not abuse me. Only someone of weak character would do that. I have no respect for them. And Pity, is no substitute for respect.
May this note find us all ever closer to God, and His Peace.
As a Catholic for 6-7 years - after about 40-years of post-puberty psychological female-evil blindness, twisted feminist doctrine beliefs, etc I was Inspired one Blessed day by Holy Ghost, Clarity, that for example I had been betrayed by mother and nearly all women that have power-influence & media, my endless suffering self-hate etc was demonic, that me and my siblings - some dead now, others' lives and mind a mess, that it was Satanic and had to be addressed as such, as such directed to Catholic Church.
I discovered that the pre-VaticanII Traditional Church defined the world and our place and responsibilities so very well. (Note VaticanII is heretical in many significant places and many post-VII leaders are Graceless with 'Paper' Offices as they always intended to destroy the Church and replace with Satanic-Feminist-Communist-Protestation version)
And once we are post-puberty (or earlier) we are responsible for correcting ourselves, although I would respond that those of us who suffered psychological damage so that anti-feminism or even criticism of women were Hate-full to Mother, and womenhood .. enforced in all of society, that much flexibility in assumption of full blame for such twistedness requires Prudence, that bringing them around to rationality is Loving - and Prayer for same-similar Inspiration by Holy Ghost is most effective.
God Bless., Steve
Honestly, love Greek myths especially celle ci, I must confess though that I'm eager to see men pick up their sword once more so to speak, its why I write more in the mode of Tolkien and write Greek myths into my fiction and novelize it and Norse ones with the virtues of Christianity and those ancients intact. We need more virtue, we need to push it always forward and we must never give ground.
I went to college many decades ago but already the student population was close to 50/50 men and women. Women were being taught they could be the CEO and also "Supper Mom." When the realities of life after college set in many of these women became mean and bitter. They wanted to crawl to the top but wanted to be seen in their peer group as that "awesome mom." But limitations on time and individual attention make this near impossible. I saw it with my own mother that would constantly harp on how demanding her job was and that we should be the kind of children to make her life as a mother easier. I've also worked for these women and let me tell you their frustration almost always gets directed at subordinates at work.
i had a female boss when I first started working. She had 1 daughter who was a successful journalist, she herself divorced early on as it turned out her husband was gay. Socially she was well liked but she was a horrible tyrant to all the women in our department (healthcare, 90% women in our department). Someone would leave her office in tears at least once a week. Other employees from different departments could always tell she was away when they walked through our department and everyone was happy and relaxed.
She was a "great" feminist. I say she was a miserable bitter woman who took out her frustration on her subordinates while taking credit for their hard work. Definitely a Medusa and while I feel some pitty for her personal relationship failure, she had no right to abuse her staff the way she did. This was back in the late '80s early '90s, I don't think she would have gotten away with it nowadays... but who knows.
The feminism of sisterhood and uplift of women is long dead.
It's been about hating men since Andrea Dworkin.
So much bullshit, so little time...
I used to have nightmares about werewolves and at last realized the beast was my alcoholic father, so I really get this. And you're right, the animating beast of our age isn't the werewolf but the gorgon. I wrote this redemption story about Medusa's sister Euryale. https://mythicfiction.substack.com/p/a-garden-of-silence-part-1 I might need to do one about Medusa now with your essay in mind. It feels present.