This is a topic I am absolutely fascinated by. I know you’ve discussed it before, but I am very interested to hear what you and your guest have to say.
Interesting topic. Perhaps some, but surely not all homosexuality. I have known gay men (including one of my three brothers) who I am certain were not abused as children.
Youngest brother? The abuse causal pathway definitely doesn't apply to all gay men. For example, the more older brothers a boy has, the more likely he is to be gay, possibly because of mothers' immune systems becoming sensitized to and producing antibodies against H-Y antigens. Maternal stress during pregnancy is also known to increase the likelihood that a boy will be gay, as does premature birth; both are probably correlated with higher rates of family dysfunction (for various reasons) but obviously can occur without abuse being a factor.
In my family's case, it's my oldest brother who is gay. The three of us who are younger are all straight. I remember our mother saying her first baby was a somewhat difficult birth, while the subsequent three were comparatively routine. Our four births took place between 1947 and 1959; I have no idea if that, or the late 1940s to early 1970s period we were raised, have any relevance.
A lot of masculinization via testosterone occurs in the third trimester. From that timeline, if I had to guess the difficulty birth, higher stress in 1946-1947 (postwar craziness!), and food shortages / poorer nutrition are all potential factors. Low birth weight? It seems to be *extremely* complicated!
Male homosexuality seems to serve an adaptive function to protect mothers ... gay men are more likely to be loyal to their mothers and to help out with childcare than straight men. I believe some genes linked to homosexuality have been found to be on X chromosome ... I'm not sure of the exact mechanism, but as weird as this sounds, I think boys are more likely to be born gay if mom needs an ally ... (e.g. if the father is abusive or absent).
What is for certain is that too many people perceive thus treat human procreative ‘rights’ as though they (potential parents) will somehow, in blind anticipation, be innately inclined to sufficiently understand and appropriately nurture their children’s naturally developing minds and needs.
Thus, failing at parenthood can occur simply with the decision to conceive and carry a baby to term. By this I mean that too many people will procreate regardless of not being sufficiently knowledgeable of child development to ensure parenting in a psychologically functional/healthy manner.
Can some of this be how a mother may treat her sons differently? Our neighbor has 3 boys. The first two are active and typical. The youngest is trans. She admitted to me that she had wanted a girl. When the youngest was around 2, he would often be dressed in girls clothes. He played with my youngest daughter with dolls and Barbie’s. When he was 5, the mom bought him a bra. My daughter was extremely bothered by this - even she felt this crossed a line without me even having to say anything. The mother was adamant that he was born this way but I see that she tragically groomed her own son. He’s now 14 and goes to school as a girl. The father took a feeble stand in the beginning but the trans ideology is a religion their house. I feel so terribly sad for this boy.
I have to agree with that. Her child abuse should be treated as such but instead she’s championed in our community as an advocate for her child’s “truth”.
Interesting. I didn't think of that; I wonder if any researchers also looked at whether the older brother effect disappears or decreases when at least one older sister is also present? Most women I know who are or want to be mothers wanted or want a daughter.
These are children who obviously have never been told "no." in their lives, no doubt raised by "I gave birth to my best friend"-type parents. Children NEED boundaries. "NO" is not abuse. That being said my question above all others to Slutzky et al. is "do those glasses come with the hair attached??"
Actually, child abuse prolonged readily causes psychological and emotional pain and dysfunction, typically for life.
If survived, early-life child abuse left unchecked typically causes the brain to improperly develop. It can readily be the starting point of a life in which the brain uncontrollably releases potentially damaging levels of inflammatory stress hormones and chemicals, even in otherwise non-stressful daily routines.
It can amount to non-physical-impact brain-damage abuse: It has been described as a continuous, discomforting anticipation of ‘the other shoe dropping’ and simultaneously being scared of how badly you will deal with the upsetting event, which usually never transpires.
The lasting emotional/psychological pain throughout one's life from such trauma is very formidable yet invisibly confined to inside one's head. It is solitarily suffered, unlike an openly visible physical disability or condition, which tends to elicit sympathy/empathy from others. It can make every day a mental ordeal, unless the turmoil is prescription and/or illicitly medicated.
As a moral rule, a mentally as well as physically sound future should be every child’s fundamental right — along with air, water, food and shelter — especially considering the very troubled world into which they never asked to enter; a world in which Child Abuse Prevention Month [every April] clearly needs to run 365 days of the year.
The health of all children needs to be of real importance to everyone — and not just concern over what other parents’ children might or will cost us as future criminals or costly cases of government care, etcetera — regardless of how well our own developing children are doing.
This is a topic I am absolutely fascinated by. I know you’ve discussed it before, but I am very interested to hear what you and your guest have to say.
No doubt! It’s a super fascinating topic
I just discovered Mr Sciambras YouTube channel yesterday! What a pleasant surprise to see he's on disaffected.
Him and I share a love for the writings and life of blessed Fr Seraphim Rose of Platina.
Joseph Sciambra is a treasure.
Excellent episode. And I love the new graphics for the opening. Very, very cool!
Out of the park, again, Josh! Loved this episode. Shedding light on so much that has been suppressed in corporate media.
Oh fascinating. I missed this, when will it be up for after-the-fact listening?
Click the youtube player. It's been up since last night:)
Oh, well then! I’ll give it a listen!
While I don’t think all homosexuals have been sexually abused/suffer from mental illness it certainly way higher than the general population.
Interesting topic. Perhaps some, but surely not all homosexuality. I have known gay men (including one of my three brothers) who I am certain were not abused as children.
Youngest brother? The abuse causal pathway definitely doesn't apply to all gay men. For example, the more older brothers a boy has, the more likely he is to be gay, possibly because of mothers' immune systems becoming sensitized to and producing antibodies against H-Y antigens. Maternal stress during pregnancy is also known to increase the likelihood that a boy will be gay, as does premature birth; both are probably correlated with higher rates of family dysfunction (for various reasons) but obviously can occur without abuse being a factor.
In my family's case, it's my oldest brother who is gay. The three of us who are younger are all straight. I remember our mother saying her first baby was a somewhat difficult birth, while the subsequent three were comparatively routine. Our four births took place between 1947 and 1959; I have no idea if that, or the late 1940s to early 1970s period we were raised, have any relevance.
A lot of masculinization via testosterone occurs in the third trimester. From that timeline, if I had to guess the difficulty birth, higher stress in 1946-1947 (postwar craziness!), and food shortages / poorer nutrition are all potential factors. Low birth weight? It seems to be *extremely* complicated!
Male homosexuality seems to serve an adaptive function to protect mothers ... gay men are more likely to be loyal to their mothers and to help out with childcare than straight men. I believe some genes linked to homosexuality have been found to be on X chromosome ... I'm not sure of the exact mechanism, but as weird as this sounds, I think boys are more likely to be born gay if mom needs an ally ... (e.g. if the father is abusive or absent).
Hmm. Complicated, and fascinating. I'll never understand it all. Maybe no one will.
What is for certain is that too many people perceive thus treat human procreative ‘rights’ as though they (potential parents) will somehow, in blind anticipation, be innately inclined to sufficiently understand and appropriately nurture their children’s naturally developing minds and needs.
Thus, failing at parenthood can occur simply with the decision to conceive and carry a baby to term. By this I mean that too many people will procreate regardless of not being sufficiently knowledgeable of child development to ensure parenting in a psychologically functional/healthy manner.
Can some of this be how a mother may treat her sons differently? Our neighbor has 3 boys. The first two are active and typical. The youngest is trans. She admitted to me that she had wanted a girl. When the youngest was around 2, he would often be dressed in girls clothes. He played with my youngest daughter with dolls and Barbie’s. When he was 5, the mom bought him a bra. My daughter was extremely bothered by this - even she felt this crossed a line without me even having to say anything. The mother was adamant that he was born this way but I see that she tragically groomed her own son. He’s now 14 and goes to school as a girl. The father took a feeble stand in the beginning but the trans ideology is a religion their house. I feel so terribly sad for this boy.
She does not have a "trans" kid. No kid is "trans". No human is "trans."
She is personality disordered and practicing Munchausen's by Proxy on her poor son. She is an abuser who should be in prison.
I have to agree with that. Her child abuse should be treated as such but instead she’s championed in our community as an advocate for her child’s “truth”.
Pure tragedy. I wonder if fourteen is too late to get away from her and recover.
Interesting. I didn't think of that; I wonder if any researchers also looked at whether the older brother effect disappears or decreases when at least one older sister is also present? Most women I know who are or want to be mothers wanted or want a daughter.
These are children who obviously have never been told "no." in their lives, no doubt raised by "I gave birth to my best friend"-type parents. Children NEED boundaries. "NO" is not abuse. That being said my question above all others to Slutzky et al. is "do those glasses come with the hair attached??"
Josh laughing at the Britney Griner interview is my new favorite thing. <3
Actually, child abuse prolonged readily causes psychological and emotional pain and dysfunction, typically for life.
If survived, early-life child abuse left unchecked typically causes the brain to improperly develop. It can readily be the starting point of a life in which the brain uncontrollably releases potentially damaging levels of inflammatory stress hormones and chemicals, even in otherwise non-stressful daily routines.
It can amount to non-physical-impact brain-damage abuse: It has been described as a continuous, discomforting anticipation of ‘the other shoe dropping’ and simultaneously being scared of how badly you will deal with the upsetting event, which usually never transpires.
The lasting emotional/psychological pain throughout one's life from such trauma is very formidable yet invisibly confined to inside one's head. It is solitarily suffered, unlike an openly visible physical disability or condition, which tends to elicit sympathy/empathy from others. It can make every day a mental ordeal, unless the turmoil is prescription and/or illicitly medicated.
As a moral rule, a mentally as well as physically sound future should be every child’s fundamental right — along with air, water, food and shelter — especially considering the very troubled world into which they never asked to enter; a world in which Child Abuse Prevention Month [every April] clearly needs to run 365 days of the year.
The health of all children needs to be of real importance to everyone — and not just concern over what other parents’ children might or will cost us as future criminals or costly cases of government care, etcetera — regardless of how well our own developing children are doing.
Yes to all of that. I know it well from personal experience.
Yes, and these children should be offered conversion therapy. If the law denies them the therapy, they get abused for a second time.