Stop this. "We just need a third space for gender nonconforming people."Disaffected Newsletter is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support my work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber. "We just need a different, additional bathroom for them, at the expense of whatever company or government owns the building."
Yes, I am officially declaring my intention to be that annoying fan who is nearly always the first to comment. You know where I live; sue me. :-P
So, OMG, yes. This ENRAGES me. I go 0 to 60 in about two seconds when I hear this shit. Why? I'm a heterosexual woman with short hair who doesn't own or wear skirts and dresses, only puts on makeup if I have to get my picture taken, decorates with Star Trek memorabilia, loves coding and mathematics, puts together LEGO sets for fun, and otherwise am considered "gender non-conforming." Why the quotes? Because the concept is itself bullshit. MEN DO NOT OWN MATHEMATICS, LEGO, STAR TREK, CODING, OR COMFORTABLE CLOTHING. Likewise, women don't own cooking, being interested in aesthetics, keeping a clean and organized living space, emotional literacy, or any of the other traits that can get men called "gender nonconforming." Men and women are different on average, but the distributions are HUGELY overlapping. I am not an unusual or "non-conforming" woman anymore than a woman who's 5'9" is "unusual" or "height non-conforming" just for being a little above average. Or any more than a man who's 5'7" is "unusual" or "height non-conforming" for being a little shorter than average. There are way too many people on this planet for such rigid boxes, and the more we categorize people as being outside of them, the more we reinforce the boxes as valid, necessary, important, etc.
You're absolutely right. The TRAs don't want these 'third' spaces. They want our spaces because they are disruptors. They want to take girls' medals and places, they want to upset women in changing rooms, they want to force people to use compelled speech with these ridiculous pronouns, they want us to say what we know to be false, the ultimate victory is to make us say that a man is a woman. When you can make someone say that, you can make them say and do anything. They revel in our discomfort and in our willingness to snap ourselves in half to accommodate them. Here in the UK there is growing pushback. The more these activists show up in the news with their increasingly aggressive behaviour and ludicrous demands, the more people are starting to wake up. And we have some politicians, sports woman and men and many feminists speaking up more and more. #no thank you.
Josh, you are on some kind of a roll lately. You are so right about this. The separate "third sex" facilities would just be part of the grooming, and put teens & younger kids (male and female) at risk for sexual assault, seduction, cult recruitment and etc, in THOSE BATHROOMS. You kidding me? I can just imagine the lurkers behind the trees where those kind of bathrooms are, jumping to knock on the door as soon as any kind of youth has entered--or waiting inside already.
All this "gendered" princessness or alternately, macho ninja transformer woo, is all from the cartoons and Hollywood, the great sex purveyor, evolved to the anime/dystopian sewer-as-internet obsessions suck kids in. I don't get any of it, as I, a 65 year old ex-wife of a man who THINKS he's a woman.
I grew up in an I Love Lassie sort of a time, wearing my boy cousins' hand-me-down jeans and plaid shirts, along with (gorgeous) handmade dresses cut down from women's clothing during the Depression. Mothers were like that back then. If it's not a rag, someone can wear it. I so want everyone to love their body, don't jump it into bed with just anyone, breath into your abs exercises and be grateful this isn't Biafra. (does no one else remember the baby skeletons?)
Save money and send it to where someone IS starving. Stay in your sexed body so you can send that money, so you can listen to someone else in crisis and help them and stop teaching yourself how to act Cluster B. Sometimes I worry about you Josh. This one makes me feel better.
Excellent post. The fact it is collaboration is very hard to explain and many people play right along. A frustrating aspect of all this is that someone might get swept up in the Trans nonsense but reject the BLM and Covid nonsense. Or buy into Covid nonsense but reject everything else. It's like there is a societal level Gell-Mann amnesia effect. They don't see the same tricks are being played. Frustrating to chip away at one and then start the battle all over again with something else.
There is no end to how granular society will need to become if we cede this ground here and now. If we just acknowledged the difficult truth - that so much of the upheaval of the moment all boils down to a taking of cultural power by those who did not earn it, and are not stable enough to wield it - the importance of a loving but firm “no” might more apparent to people. Allowing whole segments of society to collapse into dysfunction, delusion and mental illness is the opposite of love, and the large scale tantrums will never stop if there isn’t a collective line drawn in the sand. We all need to channel our inner Josh. We wouldn’t be in this mess right now if we had done that from minute one.
I would note that transsexuals never demanded these kind of accommodations. This is all transgender activitism. Transsexual and transgender are two entirely different groups.
Yes, I am officially declaring my intention to be that annoying fan who is nearly always the first to comment. You know where I live; sue me. :-P
So, OMG, yes. This ENRAGES me. I go 0 to 60 in about two seconds when I hear this shit. Why? I'm a heterosexual woman with short hair who doesn't own or wear skirts and dresses, only puts on makeup if I have to get my picture taken, decorates with Star Trek memorabilia, loves coding and mathematics, puts together LEGO sets for fun, and otherwise am considered "gender non-conforming." Why the quotes? Because the concept is itself bullshit. MEN DO NOT OWN MATHEMATICS, LEGO, STAR TREK, CODING, OR COMFORTABLE CLOTHING. Likewise, women don't own cooking, being interested in aesthetics, keeping a clean and organized living space, emotional literacy, or any of the other traits that can get men called "gender nonconforming." Men and women are different on average, but the distributions are HUGELY overlapping. I am not an unusual or "non-conforming" woman anymore than a woman who's 5'9" is "unusual" or "height non-conforming" just for being a little above average. Or any more than a man who's 5'7" is "unusual" or "height non-conforming" for being a little shorter than average. There are way too many people on this planet for such rigid boxes, and the more we categorize people as being outside of them, the more we reinforce the boxes as valid, necessary, important, etc.
Simple, yet extremely profound message.
That's insightful. I never made that connection.
We have a serious "I'm not comfortable." problem in the U.S. right now. I believe it's similar.
You're absolutely right. The TRAs don't want these 'third' spaces. They want our spaces because they are disruptors. They want to take girls' medals and places, they want to upset women in changing rooms, they want to force people to use compelled speech with these ridiculous pronouns, they want us to say what we know to be false, the ultimate victory is to make us say that a man is a woman. When you can make someone say that, you can make them say and do anything. They revel in our discomfort and in our willingness to snap ourselves in half to accommodate them. Here in the UK there is growing pushback. The more these activists show up in the news with their increasingly aggressive behaviour and ludicrous demands, the more people are starting to wake up. And we have some politicians, sports woman and men and many feminists speaking up more and more. #no thank you.
Josh, you are on some kind of a roll lately. You are so right about this. The separate "third sex" facilities would just be part of the grooming, and put teens & younger kids (male and female) at risk for sexual assault, seduction, cult recruitment and etc, in THOSE BATHROOMS. You kidding me? I can just imagine the lurkers behind the trees where those kind of bathrooms are, jumping to knock on the door as soon as any kind of youth has entered--or waiting inside already.
All this "gendered" princessness or alternately, macho ninja transformer woo, is all from the cartoons and Hollywood, the great sex purveyor, evolved to the anime/dystopian sewer-as-internet obsessions suck kids in. I don't get any of it, as I, a 65 year old ex-wife of a man who THINKS he's a woman.
I grew up in an I Love Lassie sort of a time, wearing my boy cousins' hand-me-down jeans and plaid shirts, along with (gorgeous) handmade dresses cut down from women's clothing during the Depression. Mothers were like that back then. If it's not a rag, someone can wear it. I so want everyone to love their body, don't jump it into bed with just anyone, breath into your abs exercises and be grateful this isn't Biafra. (does no one else remember the baby skeletons?)
Save money and send it to where someone IS starving. Stay in your sexed body so you can send that money, so you can listen to someone else in crisis and help them and stop teaching yourself how to act Cluster B. Sometimes I worry about you Josh. This one makes me feel better.
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100% agree, Josh!
Excellent post. The fact it is collaboration is very hard to explain and many people play right along. A frustrating aspect of all this is that someone might get swept up in the Trans nonsense but reject the BLM and Covid nonsense. Or buy into Covid nonsense but reject everything else. It's like there is a societal level Gell-Mann amnesia effect. They don't see the same tricks are being played. Frustrating to chip away at one and then start the battle all over again with something else.
Straight talk from a strai....er, stand up guy😂 Just joshin' you...oooh see what I did there?
There is no end to how granular society will need to become if we cede this ground here and now. If we just acknowledged the difficult truth - that so much of the upheaval of the moment all boils down to a taking of cultural power by those who did not earn it, and are not stable enough to wield it - the importance of a loving but firm “no” might more apparent to people. Allowing whole segments of society to collapse into dysfunction, delusion and mental illness is the opposite of love, and the large scale tantrums will never stop if there isn’t a collective line drawn in the sand. We all need to channel our inner Josh. We wouldn’t be in this mess right now if we had done that from minute one.
I would note that transsexuals never demanded these kind of accommodations. This is all transgender activitism. Transsexual and transgender are two entirely different groups.