Readers—I’m sorry to have to do it, but comments are turned off to prevent ugly conversations that inevitably arise when the subject is Israel or Gaza.
Agreed. My husband committed suicide two years ago after an argument. It’s not PC to suggest it was an impulsive selfish act. I am healing , but it has been so hard. My adult children were so destroyed. I can’t suggest he wasn’t depressed prior to the act because it goes against the narrative. There was definite spite involved as illustrated by the suicide note to me. I will never be the same.
I once read an interview with Frances Cobain in which she summarily rejected the idea of her father’s suicide as something somehow related to his genius. She said people forgot what it meant to her: She didn’t get to have a father, and there was nothing cool or artistic or poetic or inspiring about it.
Yeah, and from browsing his Reddit and Twitch postings he was way, way down an anarcho-communist rabbit hole.
He actually included his pronouns in his suicide note, and had changed his Twitch username to LilyAnarKitty, so yeah — he was well off the reservation, and was loudly advertising this fact.
What's rather scary is that this was all very public behaviour, and had been going on for a long while... and the military missed it. Concerning.
Thank god he only took himself out, it could have been much worse, given his mental state/issues.
You call to mind the distinction GK Chesterton drew between martyrdom and suicide
— that martyrs care so much for humanity that they forfeit their lives, whereas one who commits suicide cares so little. And he said so being a profoundly humane man who wouldn’t have glossed over the suffering inherent in the act.
Hitchens warned of the danger of the eastern religions, which render people susceptible to the whims of others. The Shinto-inspired, god-emperor worshipping death cult of the kamikaze, the acceptance and encouragement of abject poverty and suffering fostered by Mother Teresa (who gladly accepted money from Baby Doc Duvalier), and self-immolating monks. [*Edit* - acknowledging Mother Teresa was Catholic, but the denial of the self has an earlier origin.]
Thank you Josh for your clarity and candor. He showed solidarity with Hamas by martyring himself and now he's a hero. Another symptom of a Cluster B world.
You are wrong about this, Josh. This wasn't a suicide motivated by a desire to end one's life. He wasn't suffering due to the horror of his personal existence. He was suffering as a member of a polity who clearly sees the horror of the polity's existence. Not only that, he was a member of the entity helping the evil, evil, evil Zionist Jews commit their unfathomable evil.
And as a member of that evil entity, he made the only statement many of us cattle can--
If he had left a note denouncing the genocide in Gaza, then intentionally overdosed on fentanyl, you would be more justified in disparaging him. But he chose a way of doing it that does not allow us to question his sincerity.
Zionist Jews are not evil nor are they committing acts of unfathomable evil.
It is easy to get trapped in false narratives, and narcissists are particularly skilled at weaving them.
Aaron Bushnell claimed that Israel was engaged in genocide, and that is not true. So, Bushnell either lied or was grossly misinformed.
I suspect people in Jonestown were sincere when they lined up with their children to drink the kool aid.
Mr. Bushnell took pleasure in the thought of all the attention his vicious stunt would gain him, just as the people of Jonestown were seeking to make an impression on folks back in America, just like all the mass shooters of random people that then suicide afterwards, just like Hamas. They are excited by the grand impression they are going to make on all of us. They find it gratifying to contemplate, and consider the lives of others as nothing, and reckon their own death a small price to pay for that sick thrill. Unfathomable evil? There’s your unfathomable evil.
"Zionist Jews are not evil nor are they committing acts of unfathomable evil."
If you don't believe the genocide of the Gazans is evil, then there is no plane on which we can debate. You are like John Hagee, who says that calling for a ceasefire in Gaza is doing the work of the Anti-Christ. Unreachable.
If there was a genocide then it would indeed be evil but what Israel is doing in Gaza is self-defense and not genocide.
Hamas is the government of Gaza and Hamas choose to go to war with Israel and Israel is doing everything it reasonably can, and a good deal more, to avoid civilian casualties under very difficult conditions. Those are the facts.
Self-defense? LOL. Hamas chose to go to war? LOL Avoiding civilian casualties? LOL.
You forgot to mention how Hamas stopped and raped a bunch of Jewesses on October 7 and played hacky-sack with their severed breasts. I mean, it was in the New York Times, so you know it's true.
Mr. Nelsen hasn't just imbibed Kool Aid, he is drowning in the middle of a Pacific Ocean of Kool Aid. Just inconceivable naivete, or delusion, or something.
If you study the Jonestown event, meaning, of course, you must study the life of Jim Jones, you will learn that it wasn't a mass suicide. It was 95% a mass murder, with perhaps 5% of the deaths being due to suicide.
Jim Jones was a malignant narcissist deluxe, with the sharklike sensitivity to blood in the water and the protean manipulative abilities which such people have.
Dr Laurence Schacht was the "medical officer" at Jonestown. He was the one who determined how much cyanide in a vat of Flavor - Aid would be needed to kill 900 people. But how did a bright, 29 year old medical doctor wind up in such a position?
Schacht, at age 10, had been an eager, psychologically healthy kid. He was a student at Poe Elementary School, in Houston, on September 15, 1959, when a professional criminal/psychopath/syphilis induced psychotic ( a winning combination if ever there was one ), Paul Harold Orgeron, detonated a suitcase bomb on the playground at recess, killing five innocents and nearly killing me.
Those who knew Schacht, an extremely sensitive kid who was not on the playground at the time and was uninjured physically, say that he was never the same again. He became obsessed with violence and with the darkness of the world. ( A mutual friend has told me that Schacht grieved over me, which appalls me and touches me. )
In high school, he became a heavy drug user, and at 19, drifted off to California, leaving his friends in Texas certain they'd next hear of Schacht as an overdose. They were thrilled when they learned in 1977 that in the San Francisco of the early 1970s, Schacht had become a member of a socially conscious church with an activist pastor, that the church had cleaned Schacht out and sent him through medical school.
Jones is a fascinating figure. His ability to spot Schacht as a lost soul with talent, to give Schacht a purpose in living, and to make Schacht a zombie appendage of his own madness, is one which would interest a lot of people here.
If Israel was truly trying to kill all civilians in the Gaza strip (a genocide) they could've killed all 2 million within a week. Obviously they have other aims. You might think their efforts are brutal or evil but they're obviously not genocide. When a group COULD easily kill 2 million and only kills 50,000 that is BY ANY DEFINITION not genocide. Words have meaning separate from your own aims or desires and genocide necessarily includes intent-not just killing.
I'm seeing a lot of people glorifying this behaviour online, mainly because they think it benefits 'their team' politically, which is ghoulish in the extreme.
Valorising, "affirming" and promoting mental illness has profound and terrible consequences, and we should not be doing it.
It is the ultimate example of a temper tantrum. It is made all the more ugly when a person who ought to be an adult does it.
It is the progressive analogy to a pointless school shooting.
Agreed. My husband committed suicide two years ago after an argument. It’s not PC to suggest it was an impulsive selfish act. I am healing , but it has been so hard. My adult children were so destroyed. I can’t suggest he wasn’t depressed prior to the act because it goes against the narrative. There was definite spite involved as illustrated by the suicide note to me. I will never be the same.
I am saddened to hear you experienced this. Suicide should be taught as morally impermissible. A man with a why can endure any how.
Your courage and moral clarity are a beacon in the night of the utterly deranged world we are living in. Thank you.
As is yours, Holly
❤️❤️❤️ Josh is one of my role models for courage and moral clarity. I have learned a lot from him.
I once read an interview with Frances Cobain in which she summarily rejected the idea of her father’s suicide as something somehow related to his genius. She said people forgot what it meant to her: She didn’t get to have a father, and there was nothing cool or artistic or poetic or inspiring about it.
Outrage at existence because it refused to conform to his desires.
According to Andy Ngo, Aaron also went by Lilly. Shocker.
Yeah, and from browsing his Reddit and Twitch postings he was way, way down an anarcho-communist rabbit hole.
He actually included his pronouns in his suicide note, and had changed his Twitch username to LilyAnarKitty, so yeah — he was well off the reservation, and was loudly advertising this fact.
What's rather scary is that this was all very public behaviour, and had been going on for a long while... and the military missed it. Concerning.
Thank god he only took himself out, it could have been much worse, given his mental state/issues.
Good. Self correcting problem. Had he not done it maybe the next acting out event would have been murder. Fuck that asshole.
Also Josh ditto Holly. I very much enjoy your candor. Too few like you brother.
You call to mind the distinction GK Chesterton drew between martyrdom and suicide
— that martyrs care so much for humanity that they forfeit their lives, whereas one who commits suicide cares so little. And he said so being a profoundly humane man who wouldn’t have glossed over the suffering inherent in the act.
I was thinking about posting about this same Chesterton point! The King of Paradox.
I agree this is an assault. It is meant to shock, scare, and hurt others.
Don't forget emotional manipulation as one of its probably intentions.
True
Hitchens warned of the danger of the eastern religions, which render people susceptible to the whims of others. The Shinto-inspired, god-emperor worshipping death cult of the kamikaze, the acceptance and encouragement of abject poverty and suffering fostered by Mother Teresa (who gladly accepted money from Baby Doc Duvalier), and self-immolating monks. [*Edit* - acknowledging Mother Teresa was Catholic, but the denial of the self has an earlier origin.]
When a lot of these empty head wokies finally realize they’ve been played as useful idiots this is where some of them will end up.
Thank you Josh for your clarity and candor. He showed solidarity with Hamas by martyring himself and now he's a hero. Another symptom of a Cluster B world.
"Do what I want or I'll hurt/kill myself" is just abusive and evil behavior. The fact the far left is already lionizing this guy is horrifying.
You are wrong about this, Josh. This wasn't a suicide motivated by a desire to end one's life. He wasn't suffering due to the horror of his personal existence. He was suffering as a member of a polity who clearly sees the horror of the polity's existence. Not only that, he was a member of the entity helping the evil, evil, evil Zionist Jews commit their unfathomable evil.
And as a member of that evil entity, he made the only statement many of us cattle can--
If he had left a note denouncing the genocide in Gaza, then intentionally overdosed on fentanyl, you would be more justified in disparaging him. But he chose a way of doing it that does not allow us to question his sincerity.
Zionist Jews are not evil nor are they committing acts of unfathomable evil.
It is easy to get trapped in false narratives, and narcissists are particularly skilled at weaving them.
Aaron Bushnell claimed that Israel was engaged in genocide, and that is not true. So, Bushnell either lied or was grossly misinformed.
I suspect people in Jonestown were sincere when they lined up with their children to drink the kool aid.
Mr. Bushnell took pleasure in the thought of all the attention his vicious stunt would gain him, just as the people of Jonestown were seeking to make an impression on folks back in America, just like all the mass shooters of random people that then suicide afterwards, just like Hamas. They are excited by the grand impression they are going to make on all of us. They find it gratifying to contemplate, and consider the lives of others as nothing, and reckon their own death a small price to pay for that sick thrill. Unfathomable evil? There’s your unfathomable evil.
"Zionist Jews are not evil nor are they committing acts of unfathomable evil."
If you don't believe the genocide of the Gazans is evil, then there is no plane on which we can debate. You are like John Hagee, who says that calling for a ceasefire in Gaza is doing the work of the Anti-Christ. Unreachable.
If there was a genocide then it would indeed be evil but what Israel is doing in Gaza is self-defense and not genocide.
Hamas is the government of Gaza and Hamas choose to go to war with Israel and Israel is doing everything it reasonably can, and a good deal more, to avoid civilian casualties under very difficult conditions. Those are the facts.
I know nothing of John Hagee.
Self-defense? LOL. Hamas chose to go to war? LOL Avoiding civilian casualties? LOL.
You forgot to mention how Hamas stopped and raped a bunch of Jewesses on October 7 and played hacky-sack with their severed breasts. I mean, it was in the New York Times, so you know it's true.
https://craignelsen.substack.com/p/rape-denial
John Hagee is another lying lapdog for Israeli genocide of the Palestinians.
Govt as in IDF.
Mr. Nelsen hasn't just imbibed Kool Aid, he is drowning in the middle of a Pacific Ocean of Kool Aid. Just inconceivable naivete, or delusion, or something.
Are you a Holocaust denier, too? Because there is as much evidence that October 7 happened as that the Holocaust did.
I believe October 7, 2023 "happened." LOL
If you study the Jonestown event, meaning, of course, you must study the life of Jim Jones, you will learn that it wasn't a mass suicide. It was 95% a mass murder, with perhaps 5% of the deaths being due to suicide.
Jim Jones was a malignant narcissist deluxe, with the sharklike sensitivity to blood in the water and the protean manipulative abilities which such people have.
Dr Laurence Schacht was the "medical officer" at Jonestown. He was the one who determined how much cyanide in a vat of Flavor - Aid would be needed to kill 900 people. But how did a bright, 29 year old medical doctor wind up in such a position?
Schacht, at age 10, had been an eager, psychologically healthy kid. He was a student at Poe Elementary School, in Houston, on September 15, 1959, when a professional criminal/psychopath/syphilis induced psychotic ( a winning combination if ever there was one ), Paul Harold Orgeron, detonated a suitcase bomb on the playground at recess, killing five innocents and nearly killing me.
Those who knew Schacht, an extremely sensitive kid who was not on the playground at the time and was uninjured physically, say that he was never the same again. He became obsessed with violence and with the darkness of the world. ( A mutual friend has told me that Schacht grieved over me, which appalls me and touches me. )
In high school, he became a heavy drug user, and at 19, drifted off to California, leaving his friends in Texas certain they'd next hear of Schacht as an overdose. They were thrilled when they learned in 1977 that in the San Francisco of the early 1970s, Schacht had become a member of a socially conscious church with an activist pastor, that the church had cleaned Schacht out and sent him through medical school.
Jones is a fascinating figure. His ability to spot Schacht as a lost soul with talent, to give Schacht a purpose in living, and to make Schacht a zombie appendage of his own madness, is one which would interest a lot of people here.
If Israel was truly trying to kill all civilians in the Gaza strip (a genocide) they could've killed all 2 million within a week. Obviously they have other aims. You might think their efforts are brutal or evil but they're obviously not genocide. When a group COULD easily kill 2 million and only kills 50,000 that is BY ANY DEFINITION not genocide. Words have meaning separate from your own aims or desires and genocide necessarily includes intent-not just killing.
https://jmpolemic.substack.com/
Thanks for saying this.
I'm seeing a lot of people glorifying this behaviour online, mainly because they think it benefits 'their team' politically, which is ghoulish in the extreme.
Valorising, "affirming" and promoting mental illness has profound and terrible consequences, and we should not be doing it.
Ya got it. Period.