Part of this is also cause Canadian identity is tied up in NOt BEING AMERICAn. A Canadian YouTuber talks about that a bit (JJ Mcullugh…I can’t spell Irish names as they decided to do weird things with the alphabet). Anyway, this also makes sense in a “we aren’t like those dreadful Americans” way too.
I’ve also noticed the adolescence stuff and you’re right largely. Though, I think some of the stuff was harmless if the person wasn’t being serious about it. Like I know my house or whatever but I don’t think it actually signifies anything real. Just something silly that is easily put away.
In my line of work, however, this extended adolescence means students who do little on their own and it’s one reason teachers are overburdened. I still try to instill independence but there’s lots in the way it seems.
100% true about the Canadian identity being nothing but “Not American”. It is hard to shake (sometimes even for me as a red pilled Canadian who proudly gained my American citizenship recently). The West has a bit of a separate identity and most of the adults live in Alberta. Now to see if they actually finally get up the gumption to do something about their toxic relationship with the rest of the country.
But the left coast, Vancouver is somewhere between Commiefornia and People’s Republic of China while the associated criminal and drug cartels transform it into an unlivable unaffordable threat to both Canada and the United States
Star Wars and Lord the Rings have similar use, as parables to explain things in real life. Historically the Bible was used in this role, but popular media has supplanted it. If you watch Thomas Massie’s Off the Grid video mostly on building his house, he describes himself as a Hobbit going to Mordor (Washington D. C.).
It reminds me of how you're never ever allowed to judge any of a woman's lifestyle choices. If she becomes a single mother, if she has an abortion, if she gives the baby up for adoption, if she keeps the baby, if she has children with multiple fathers, if she has children with men who are constantly in and out of jail, if she divorces or leaves the father of her children, if she moves in with or marries a man and experiences a negative result...it's never her fault. Ever. She was "forced" into it. None of her choices contributed to her negative outcomes in any way. How DARE you judge her for making certain choices...which weren't choices at all, because she was FORCED to do what she did.
My mother lived at home after graduating high school & had a full time job. The difference in those days was that you were now a contributing adult to the household & did your share of house work & paying bills. My parents were able to put a down payment on a house because of her savings from years of work. I believe most who attend college these days are on a four year all expense paid vacation. Parents send them off with a debit card & say have fun, don’t struggle. Is anyone surprised they’re incapable of managing everyday life let alone getting & holding down a job?
There’s no financial literacy being taught at home. Parents let their kids visit & pick their schools regardless of the cost or usefulness of the degree. They’ll either have the means to pay for it or many just let the kids get the loans that are doled out freely without educating them about what kind of money they need to earn to pay it off. Everybody is living in LaLa land.
you’ve got this exactly backwards. I taught college for 20 years. When I was a student during the 70s, tuition was a few hundred dollars a term. my parents easily paid for my college education, and I graduated with no debt . Tuition is now thousands of dollars a term and constantly going up. When I was in college, a substantial majority of the students didn’t have to work and go to school at the same time. now, almost all of my students are working 40 hour a week jobs.
I taught at a California State University. I retired a couple years ago. My currently teaching colleagues tell me it’s the same now. almost nobody at my school completes college in four years, and students are exhausted because they have been working too hard.
At least they seem to live in reality & have jobs. Better off skipping college, working at chipotle & spending 4 yrs on track to become manager - salary is $100k+….although manager is not what most can handle.
Okay we’re talking about the majority of useless degrees that don’t get you a job. If you have the caliber to be a scientist or engineer then you probably have enough AP credits to save you a full year of college. If you don’t have those credits spend the first 2 yrs at a community college getting all the gen ed credits & paying a fraction of the price, then complete your degree at a university. Also, shop around for the best bang for your buck - don’t need to pay for a Porsche if a Honda will get you there. A big question before investing is what job can I get with this degree & what is the demand for it. College is highly overrated & a waste of time for most. I would suggest mikeroweWORKS foundation to any enterprising hardworking intelligent person that can’t find a job but is willing to be trained & make a career. By the way, the point of this article is about adolescent behavior extending far into adulthood which I was pointing out the coddling & financial support of adult children only perpetuates their inability to become functioning adults.
A couple years ago at work we had a fun holiday activity--making our own Christmas ornaments for the tree by the receptionist area. Despite being busy as all heck I was like, fine, sure whatever. No one else stayed at their desk. After a few minutes I realized I was a 48-year old man doing things with glitter glue. I went back to work.
It's not just a preference of childish adults but corporate policy of infantilization. Let Big Mommy corporation run your emotional and spiritual life for you.
These things are usually started up by HR which are run by a lot of feminist type women who just get paid a lot of throw parties & events for “culture” at the company & if you actually need real HR help like insurance questions or 401K issues they hand you a business card. Most people don’t want to do these things I have found at work.
No, it’s really not HR who does these things. More than likely someone in the department suggested it as a holiday activity and the department manager approved it.
HR exists primarily to protect the company from legal problems, so they mainly process complaints and administer what lawyers and executives deem necessary to protect the corp and or keep in compliance with policy (which is always approved in the C-suite).
It was HR who sent out emails about various happenings, and whom I had to inform if I was attending BBQs and holiday work events. They were present at the check-in table when I arrived, and they ran the contest for the most festively decorated desk. They are way more involved in these kinds of things, or at least they were where I worked. Sure, they are there to protect the company from legal problems, but most of the real things you needed from them were outsourced to someone else when it came down to it.
This among other reasons are why I started my own thing. I occasionally went back for temporary things with previous employers & the more distance I had the more I realized it was not good. I feel bad for anyone who is stuck there.
There's nothing like continual office social activities to get in the way of work (not to mention pointless meetings). I always wished they'd just leave me alone and let me get my job done.
It’s all that they gave up their personal responsibility to the govt. the behavior is reactive. The govt has taken the position of the generational trauma and abuser and gaslit the citizens blaming someone who has no power over them is scapegoating and not taking personal accountability for their thoughts and actions. It seems the bypass result of a socialist country. And many in this country want to blame Trump for their inability to function as adults. He’s not doing it to them - they have given up their personal accountability. And previous administrations have presented them with gold stars and put victims on a pedestal and let them throw tantrums and destroy property with no accountability. “Oh, they have it hard so we are going to vilify anyone who acts like a responsible adult”
Nowadays , you don't even need a real villain . It's neither neccessary or effective to draw a parallel to historical figures . Or find real evidence. Besides, all those symbols were torn down in 2020. Culture & entertainment archetypes are the best way to divert accountability , and embrace as meaningful . Everyone knows Harry Potter . Voldemort was easy to assimilate by the virtually fixated populus civitas . I wonder if the actual spirit of Voldemort isn't really at work? Just not in the way they think.
The "childrening" of adults is real. It's really huge in Corporate America. "Team calls" or "team meeting" in which adults are treated like eight year olds during story hour. It starts in school with participation trophies and "your feelings/truth" and continues on. Today companies have informal means of communication (Slack, Teams) and it's something out of seventh grade.
It started with Generation X. Also included are Baby Boomers from the Vietnam Era that have been waiting for "I'd like to buy the world a Coke" to come back for 55 years now while wearing their fucking mask.
Now take some heart. It seems as though at least young men under age 25 are starting to reject this crap. There's a reason dude you were born with two testicles. Maybe start to use them beyond ejaculating all over yourself or in side some dumb, whinny woke bit$h that wants to drag you to the "Fight the ICE" rally.
One place I worked we were required to have quarterly check in meetings with our staff, 1:1. As part of the check in, I was supposed to ask my staff person about their personal life and how they were “really” doing. Seriously?!? That is none of my business or the company’s business. Ugh.
I retired from public instruction in 2017. What you’re talking about is strangling teachers who aren’t woke and don’t need “teams” to prepare curriculum. It was so obvious in our staff meetings—half the staff just wanted it to end and the other half was slurping it up like kittens at a bowl.
This is soooo good. You didn't mention it, but I've read about , and know personally, early middle-age people who make an annual pilgrimage to Disneyland/Disney World, leaving their kids behind!! If that isn't the height of arrested development, I don't know what would be, except, of course as you highlighted, the Harry Potter kidults. Kidults.🤣🤣🤣 Perfect! Trekkies and Star Wars obsessed adults give the Dizykidults a run for their money.
Now you know what is a very adult passion? Hurricane lamps. Yep. Sure sign we have an adult in the room.
I'll quibble with you a little bit on Trekkies being in the same category. Star Trek was very much an adult series with adult themes, and I'm a huge fan. But I do recognize that there's a faction of the fans who cross over into the "obsession" territory, going to all the cons and cosplaying, acting more like children. I never have been to a convention but I did go to see a showing of Wrath of Khan with a fun Q&A with Shatner afterwards a few years ago. He's still so cool and funny. Meanwhile, Picard and the new reboot of TNG went woke.
I loved the t.v. Star Trek series, which I watched from its inauguration, and enjoyed several of the early Star Trek movies. I never watched, or cared to watch any of the later iterations that spun off the original.
There's one content creator, conservative social commentator that I subscribe to (not on Substack) that is a hard core fan of Star Trek and Star Wars. He's on the early side of Gen X and often veers off the content that I enjoy to enthuse and belabor over both series/movies. Really gets into the weeds with it. Strikes me as juvenile, even though this guy is anything but that.
Just my bias to include Star Trek and Star Wars in the same silly group of Potter and Disney crazies. See? There I am, giving these people, pursuing juvenile interests well past the age they should be, a hard time.
But haven’t you noticed everything in Star Trek coming true eventually. It was like a roadmap to the future. I can’t help but think that I wish they could discover the dilithium crystal, we could warp speed ourselves out of our current financial crisis and forever wars, AI future joblessness. And cement the righteousness of spandex in future fashion trends.
Asking them to be adults and what, take responsibility?! Heaven forbid. I reposted one of your posts and the single reply was, get cancer and die republican scum, or something close to that. They’ll always be the fragile ones, and mean too.
As a 79-year-old Canadian, I remain appalled that so many boomers are so detached from political and economic reality that they believe "dealing with Trump" is most important and the biggest challenge facing the country. But then they also believed that Carney's insistence that he had a plan was a sign of -- not prevarication but -- competence. Gullibility and misdirected fear ruled the day.
Matt Walsh had a hilarious video last week or so about Disney adults. Check out the 1:20 mark, when people are excitedly flooding in to the opening of Epic Universe. I saw ONE child. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPNz8hbyA80
Part of this is also cause Canadian identity is tied up in NOt BEING AMERICAn. A Canadian YouTuber talks about that a bit (JJ Mcullugh…I can’t spell Irish names as they decided to do weird things with the alphabet). Anyway, this also makes sense in a “we aren’t like those dreadful Americans” way too.
I’ve also noticed the adolescence stuff and you’re right largely. Though, I think some of the stuff was harmless if the person wasn’t being serious about it. Like I know my house or whatever but I don’t think it actually signifies anything real. Just something silly that is easily put away.
In my line of work, however, this extended adolescence means students who do little on their own and it’s one reason teachers are overburdened. I still try to instill independence but there’s lots in the way it seems.
100% true about the Canadian identity being nothing but “Not American”. It is hard to shake (sometimes even for me as a red pilled Canadian who proudly gained my American citizenship recently). The West has a bit of a separate identity and most of the adults live in Alberta. Now to see if they actually finally get up the gumption to do something about their toxic relationship with the rest of the country.
But the left coast, Vancouver is somewhere between Commiefornia and People’s Republic of China while the associated criminal and drug cartels transform it into an unlivable unaffordable threat to both Canada and the United States
Star Wars and Lord the Rings have similar use, as parables to explain things in real life. Historically the Bible was used in this role, but popular media has supplanted it. If you watch Thomas Massie’s Off the Grid video mostly on building his house, he describes himself as a Hobbit going to Mordor (Washington D. C.).
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=18_yXt1s2yc
It reminds me of how you're never ever allowed to judge any of a woman's lifestyle choices. If she becomes a single mother, if she has an abortion, if she gives the baby up for adoption, if she keeps the baby, if she has children with multiple fathers, if she has children with men who are constantly in and out of jail, if she divorces or leaves the father of her children, if she moves in with or marries a man and experiences a negative result...it's never her fault. Ever. She was "forced" into it. None of her choices contributed to her negative outcomes in any way. How DARE you judge her for making certain choices...which weren't choices at all, because she was FORCED to do what she did.
This has the same energy.
My mother lived at home after graduating high school & had a full time job. The difference in those days was that you were now a contributing adult to the household & did your share of house work & paying bills. My parents were able to put a down payment on a house because of her savings from years of work. I believe most who attend college these days are on a four year all expense paid vacation. Parents send them off with a debit card & say have fun, don’t struggle. Is anyone surprised they’re incapable of managing everyday life let alone getting & holding down a job?
There's NO financial literacy being taught in the schools let alone the acquisition of adulthood.
There’s no financial literacy being taught at home. Parents let their kids visit & pick their schools regardless of the cost or usefulness of the degree. They’ll either have the means to pay for it or many just let the kids get the loans that are doled out freely without educating them about what kind of money they need to earn to pay it off. Everybody is living in LaLa land.
you’ve got this exactly backwards. I taught college for 20 years. When I was a student during the 70s, tuition was a few hundred dollars a term. my parents easily paid for my college education, and I graduated with no debt . Tuition is now thousands of dollars a term and constantly going up. When I was in college, a substantial majority of the students didn’t have to work and go to school at the same time. now, almost all of my students are working 40 hour a week jobs.
Where do you teach? My 4 kids attended big public universities & were surrounded by kids that never had jobs & had access to parents debit cards.
I taught at a California State University. I retired a couple years ago. My currently teaching colleagues tell me it’s the same now. almost nobody at my school completes college in four years, and students are exhausted because they have been working too hard.
At least they seem to live in reality & have jobs. Better off skipping college, working at chipotle & spending 4 yrs on track to become manager - salary is $100k+….although manager is not what most can handle.
So where are our scientists and engineers going to come from, if everybody is working at chipotle’s?
Okay we’re talking about the majority of useless degrees that don’t get you a job. If you have the caliber to be a scientist or engineer then you probably have enough AP credits to save you a full year of college. If you don’t have those credits spend the first 2 yrs at a community college getting all the gen ed credits & paying a fraction of the price, then complete your degree at a university. Also, shop around for the best bang for your buck - don’t need to pay for a Porsche if a Honda will get you there. A big question before investing is what job can I get with this degree & what is the demand for it. College is highly overrated & a waste of time for most. I would suggest mikeroweWORKS foundation to any enterprising hardworking intelligent person that can’t find a job but is willing to be trained & make a career. By the way, the point of this article is about adolescent behavior extending far into adulthood which I was pointing out the coddling & financial support of adult children only perpetuates their inability to become functioning adults.
A couple years ago at work we had a fun holiday activity--making our own Christmas ornaments for the tree by the receptionist area. Despite being busy as all heck I was like, fine, sure whatever. No one else stayed at their desk. After a few minutes I realized I was a 48-year old man doing things with glitter glue. I went back to work.
It's not just a preference of childish adults but corporate policy of infantilization. Let Big Mommy corporation run your emotional and spiritual life for you.
These things are usually started up by HR which are run by a lot of feminist type women who just get paid a lot of throw parties & events for “culture” at the company & if you actually need real HR help like insurance questions or 401K issues they hand you a business card. Most people don’t want to do these things I have found at work.
No, it’s really not HR who does these things. More than likely someone in the department suggested it as a holiday activity and the department manager approved it.
HR exists primarily to protect the company from legal problems, so they mainly process complaints and administer what lawyers and executives deem necessary to protect the corp and or keep in compliance with policy (which is always approved in the C-suite).
It was HR who sent out emails about various happenings, and whom I had to inform if I was attending BBQs and holiday work events. They were present at the check-in table when I arrived, and they ran the contest for the most festively decorated desk. They are way more involved in these kinds of things, or at least they were where I worked. Sure, they are there to protect the company from legal problems, but most of the real things you needed from them were outsourced to someone else when it came down to it.
I always found HR to be useless meddlers.
Speaking only from my experience. I guess I was lucky. That said, I did leave the corporate world to do my own thing quite awhile ago.
This among other reasons are why I started my own thing. I occasionally went back for temporary things with previous employers & the more distance I had the more I realized it was not good. I feel bad for anyone who is stuck there.
There's nothing like continual office social activities to get in the way of work (not to mention pointless meetings). I always wished they'd just leave me alone and let me get my job done.
Aww, while I generally HATE “fun” work activities, for some reason this one sounds kind of charming. As long as it’s 100% optional of course.
It’s all that they gave up their personal responsibility to the govt. the behavior is reactive. The govt has taken the position of the generational trauma and abuser and gaslit the citizens blaming someone who has no power over them is scapegoating and not taking personal accountability for their thoughts and actions. It seems the bypass result of a socialist country. And many in this country want to blame Trump for their inability to function as adults. He’s not doing it to them - they have given up their personal accountability. And previous administrations have presented them with gold stars and put victims on a pedestal and let them throw tantrums and destroy property with no accountability. “Oh, they have it hard so we are going to vilify anyone who acts like a responsible adult”
Nowadays , you don't even need a real villain . It's neither neccessary or effective to draw a parallel to historical figures . Or find real evidence. Besides, all those symbols were torn down in 2020. Culture & entertainment archetypes are the best way to divert accountability , and embrace as meaningful . Everyone knows Harry Potter . Voldemort was easy to assimilate by the virtually fixated populus civitas . I wonder if the actual spirit of Voldemort isn't really at work? Just not in the way they think.
Voldemort who? I've never read Harry Porter or seen the movies.
He's the evil majik sorcerer bad guy villain in the story.
The "childrening" of adults is real. It's really huge in Corporate America. "Team calls" or "team meeting" in which adults are treated like eight year olds during story hour. It starts in school with participation trophies and "your feelings/truth" and continues on. Today companies have informal means of communication (Slack, Teams) and it's something out of seventh grade.
It started with Generation X. Also included are Baby Boomers from the Vietnam Era that have been waiting for "I'd like to buy the world a Coke" to come back for 55 years now while wearing their fucking mask.
Now take some heart. It seems as though at least young men under age 25 are starting to reject this crap. There's a reason dude you were born with two testicles. Maybe start to use them beyond ejaculating all over yourself or in side some dumb, whinny woke bit$h that wants to drag you to the "Fight the ICE" rally.
Oh my gosh, yes.
One place I worked we were required to have quarterly check in meetings with our staff, 1:1. As part of the check in, I was supposed to ask my staff person about their personal life and how they were “really” doing. Seriously?!? That is none of my business or the company’s business. Ugh.
I retired from public instruction in 2017. What you’re talking about is strangling teachers who aren’t woke and don’t need “teams” to prepare curriculum. It was so obvious in our staff meetings—half the staff just wanted it to end and the other half was slurping it up like kittens at a bowl.
This is soooo good. You didn't mention it, but I've read about , and know personally, early middle-age people who make an annual pilgrimage to Disneyland/Disney World, leaving their kids behind!! If that isn't the height of arrested development, I don't know what would be, except, of course as you highlighted, the Harry Potter kidults. Kidults.🤣🤣🤣 Perfect! Trekkies and Star Wars obsessed adults give the Dizykidults a run for their money.
Now you know what is a very adult passion? Hurricane lamps. Yep. Sure sign we have an adult in the room.
I'll quibble with you a little bit on Trekkies being in the same category. Star Trek was very much an adult series with adult themes, and I'm a huge fan. But I do recognize that there's a faction of the fans who cross over into the "obsession" territory, going to all the cons and cosplaying, acting more like children. I never have been to a convention but I did go to see a showing of Wrath of Khan with a fun Q&A with Shatner afterwards a few years ago. He's still so cool and funny. Meanwhile, Picard and the new reboot of TNG went woke.
I loved the t.v. Star Trek series, which I watched from its inauguration, and enjoyed several of the early Star Trek movies. I never watched, or cared to watch any of the later iterations that spun off the original.
There's one content creator, conservative social commentator that I subscribe to (not on Substack) that is a hard core fan of Star Trek and Star Wars. He's on the early side of Gen X and often veers off the content that I enjoy to enthuse and belabor over both series/movies. Really gets into the weeds with it. Strikes me as juvenile, even though this guy is anything but that.
Just my bias to include Star Trek and Star Wars in the same silly group of Potter and Disney crazies. See? There I am, giving these people, pursuing juvenile interests well past the age they should be, a hard time.
But haven’t you noticed everything in Star Trek coming true eventually. It was like a roadmap to the future. I can’t help but think that I wish they could discover the dilithium crystal, we could warp speed ourselves out of our current financial crisis and forever wars, AI future joblessness. And cement the righteousness of spandex in future fashion trends.
1 Corinthians 13:11 comes to mind.
I’ve seen T-shirts that say ‘not adulting today’. When did adult become a verb??
These days any noun can be verbed.
Some days I’m pretty sure my 19 yo daughter is more adult than most people over 40.
Asking them to be adults and what, take responsibility?! Heaven forbid. I reposted one of your posts and the single reply was, get cancer and die republican scum, or something close to that. They’ll always be the fragile ones, and mean too.
As a 79-year-old Canadian, I remain appalled that so many boomers are so detached from political and economic reality that they believe "dealing with Trump" is most important and the biggest challenge facing the country. But then they also believed that Carney's insistence that he had a plan was a sign of -- not prevarication but -- competence. Gullibility and misdirected fear ruled the day.
Seems like a conservative pm would be better able to manage trump?
Anybody who is basing their happiness on a cooperative world is gonna be waiting a l-o-o-o-o-n-g time for that happiness. Good luck, kiddos.
Matt Walsh had a hilarious video last week or so about Disney adults. Check out the 1:20 mark, when people are excitedly flooding in to the opening of Epic Universe. I saw ONE child. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPNz8hbyA80