It's fast, easy, cheap, quick and very effective. You'd see cities change overnight. Even the thugs would change their ways. Look at Singapore. One of the safest and cleanest places on this Earth. They're into canning but same concept and result.
That typo is fantastic. Can you imagine if they then bottled/canned the criminal product and sold it on supermarket shelves? "Karmelo Ketchup." Would we, Joe Public, then be considered sin eaters??
I think they get this logic in Singapore, where they “cane” miscreants for doing stupid destructive shit. I don’t know whether they do the caning publicly, but that would indeed be a further deterrent, unless the criminal was seriously kinky.
I’m old enough to remember when that American boy got caned in Singapore. As much as Singapore is known for being clean, there is a part that is garbage-y. The Indian neighborhood, apparently.
No it's not public but in a special wing of the prison. I read an account of the procedure from a drug dealer. Enormously painful and humiliating. They're stripped naked and you need a week lying on your belly to recover.
I've never heard of a person who got sentenced to it twice.
I’d support that, along with stocks for minor crimes. Shame is a deterrent to all but psychopaths. Psychopaths need swift and permanent removal, death for example, from society.
So, you have let the cat out of the bag; belting out your solution; sounding the call of the whipoorwill. One point you chose not to make, unless I missed it, is that prisons, so I am told, engage in flogging as it is, but they can call it disciplinary restraint, administered informally, and therefore, in some cases, applied more brutally than if the practice was a regulated punishment.
This: “If you are not willing to harness the necessity of violence and channel it through proper, just moral order, you’re going to get violence anyway.”
I’d also give the victim of the crime the option to do the flogging themselves, or be able to choose from a variety of Floggers. In our current system, people are victimized twice, once during the crime, and then again when "justice" is assigned. I think this would be psychologically healing for them. I know it would make me feel better.
Very important punishment used in both Singapore and Malaysia. It was used in prisons in Victoria, Australia until the late 60s and paradoxically helped reduce the level of overall violence.
It's fast, easy, cheap, quick and very effective. You'd see cities change overnight. Even the thugs would change their ways. Look at Singapore. One of the safest and cleanest places on this Earth. They're into canning but same concept and result.
I know you mean caning and not canning, but canning as a penalty really made me chuckle.
Judge: "As punishment for your crime I order you to boil and preserve 100 jars of tomatoes!"
That typo is fantastic. Can you imagine if they then bottled/canned the criminal product and sold it on supermarket shelves? "Karmelo Ketchup." Would we, Joe Public, then be considered sin eaters??
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LOL
Well yeah, and send it to the soup kitchens.
You have stolen from the public and caused a disturbance to the peace you must make restitution
A punishment administered by Mormons?
Sounds good to me. In fact, if men weren't such pussies in general we'd probably change that, among MANY other things.👊
Good idea!
Some might suggest that *because* it makes the tummy turn that it *would* work as a deterrent...
Yes.
That’s also my answer to “it’s not humane!”
Yes. That is the intention. It is supposed to hurt.
That’s how it works. If it doesn’t hurt, it doesn’t work.
Very, very—dear God almighty, an infant could see it—simple.
Jailing a person in prison is inhumane. I argue it is less humane than caning or even flogging.
Now I see why Holly likes you.
I think they get this logic in Singapore, where they “cane” miscreants for doing stupid destructive shit. I don’t know whether they do the caning publicly, but that would indeed be a further deterrent, unless the criminal was seriously kinky.
I’m old enough to remember when that American boy got caned in Singapore. As much as Singapore is known for being clean, there is a part that is garbage-y. The Indian neighborhood, apparently.
No it's not public but in a special wing of the prison. I read an account of the procedure from a drug dealer. Enormously painful and humiliating. They're stripped naked and you need a week lying on your belly to recover.
I've never heard of a person who got sentenced to it twice.
I’d support that, along with stocks for minor crimes. Shame is a deterrent to all but psychopaths. Psychopaths need swift and permanent removal, death for example, from society.
I'm for it. And the guy wielding the whip should be wearing a black hood. Might as well go all-out on "getting Medieval".
Nothing like good old fashioned public shaming to deter stupid behaviour!
So, you have let the cat out of the bag; belting out your solution; sounding the call of the whipoorwill. One point you chose not to make, unless I missed it, is that prisons, so I am told, engage in flogging as it is, but they can call it disciplinary restraint, administered informally, and therefore, in some cases, applied more brutally than if the practice was a regulated punishment.
This: “If you are not willing to harness the necessity of violence and channel it through proper, just moral order, you’re going to get violence anyway.”
Truly brutal but effective.
Like you, I am so burnt out on letting a small group of degenerates terrorize the average citizen. Our leaders are feckless and useless.
Making a few examples of the guilty will rapidly change the course of this country. Virtually EVERYONE avoids this kind of punishment.
The legal system is hopelessly broken and captured.
Most of these types needed a good arse whipping long long ago.
So we didn’t need to get to this point.
But we are basically charging into a ditch.
Now we must correct course hard the opposite way. But with skill. Only until you catch and then you don’t remain in the over correction.
But you HAVE to over correct to regain a shot at correcting. Full overcorrection
And for the love of Christ take foot off accelerator in current attitude.
Skilled drivers do this all the time but it ain’t easy. But your wheel goes hard opposite to stay in the game.
Flog away. Shut it all down now. Flog away.
Then we can figure it out what’s next.
> So we didn’t need to get to this point.
> But we are basically charging into a ditch.
> Now we must correct course hard the opposite way. But with skill. Only until you catch and then you don’t remain in the over correction.
> But you HAVE to over correct to regain a shot at correcting. Full overcorrection
> And for the love of Christ take foot off accelerator in current attitude.
Just... full on Quoted For Truth.
It didn't *need* to come to this. But nevertheless, "come to this" it has. And we'd best figure it out fuckin' fast.
"We’ll take any abuse no matter what, but we’ll wring our hands over whether we’re being “humane” to human pieces of shit."
Justice NEEDS to be swift - done within 5 days of crime. Not 10 years later cuz they aren't following the rules given to them to be in polite society.
And celebrity floggers or people who won a contest and get to flog people!
I’d also give the victim of the crime the option to do the flogging themselves, or be able to choose from a variety of Floggers. In our current system, people are victimized twice, once during the crime, and then again when "justice" is assigned. I think this would be psychologically healing for them. I know it would make me feel better.
Very important punishment used in both Singapore and Malaysia. It was used in prisons in Victoria, Australia until the late 60s and paradoxically helped reduce the level of overall violence.